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Should I be concerned crossing dirt roads with groomer?
Topic Started: Jan 31 2010, 03:57 PM (1,766 Views)
semntrails
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Pablo, I'm sure different weather and conditions will affect the actuators differently but for reference we've got one Ginzu that's 4 years old and one that's 2 years old, neither have boots on them and so far neither has had any problems with freezing up. They stay outside all winter long uncovered then sit in a shed over the summer. I'm not knocking the boots, they look like a nice idea but you might not have any problems without them.

couchsachraga, don't know how well they work but one concept from the Tidd Tech G2's that I like is they use a round skeg that rolls (like a pizza cutter wheel) so when crossing a road or something it's easier on the skeg and in the summer time it makes it a little easier to move around. Not sure how it works in reality but the idea seems good.

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Steve.M
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semntrails
Feb 1 2010, 03:15 PM

couchsachraga, don't know how well they work but one concept from the Tidd Tech G2's that I like is they use a round skeg that rolls (like a pizza cutter wheel) so when crossing a road or something it's easier on the skeg and in the summer time it makes it a little easier to move around. Not sure how it works in reality but the idea seems good.

The "pizza cutter" skegs work really well-it's kinda "Why didn't I think of that" kind of thing. Way easy to move around!
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Sherpa-man
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couchsachraga
Feb 1 2010, 01:59 PM

I've been thinking about adding skegs to my Ginzu
There must have been skegs on it originally, right? (How do you keep it from fishtailing?) Look on the ends of the compactor section... your vintage Ginzu has several support "arms" for the compactor section and the extreme outboard ones should be drilled to accept the skegs, then the rubber mat should have a slot at each end, just below those outboard "arms", for the skegs to poke through.

I'm not certain if current skegs will fit older Ginzus.... you can always call YTS to find out. I don't think replacements will break the bank if you get them from YTS, but you can always fab your own, too... nothing fancy about them! But the key is to determine if you've got the original mounting provisions on your Ginzu (and I can't imagine why you wouldn't???)

Does this picture help?
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couchsachraga
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It fishtails, and wanders downhill on off camber trails REALLY well. I don't think it's ever had skegs, as I don't ever recall seeing the marks in the snow from them, even when it was new (Doug from YTS has confirmed it is a really early one, though I'm sure there are some that predate it.)

The skeg you nicely annotated is definitely not on mine!

I'll take a few images next time I'm up and look for mounting points (this weekend perhaps). There are slits in the mat, though I've always assumed they were to allow it to flex.

I have to admit the "pizza cutter" idea sounds like a good one too.

I may contact the original owner to see what he recalls too.

Thanks, as always, for your thoughts!
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pablo
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Hi,

I see skegs on my later model but they're made of plastic. I don't think I'd want them any lower than they are because if/when I start crossing roads, I can see these babies wearing out quickly.

Cheers,
-pablo
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