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Should I be concerned crossing dirt roads with groomer?
Topic Started: Jan 31 2010, 03:57 PM (1,765 Views)
pablo
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Howdy,

As I alluded, my neighbors have asked I groom on their property. W00t! My only concern is in order to get to their property, I need to cross a dirt road. The municipality (similar to a county) puts dirt on the road to keep it from getting too slippery.

I'm worried that if I'm repeatedly crossing the dirt road, "something" will wear out on my groom (YTS) Ginzu 84").

Am I needlessly worrying?

Cheers,
-pablo

Edit: ^YST^YTS^ :)
Edited by pablo, Feb 1 2010, 11:27 AM.
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couchsachraga
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Will it wear it a little more? Yes. Enough to worry about? No. Just go slow. And realize the parts that wear are replaceable:)
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Thank you couchsachraga. A fountain of knowledge! :)

Cheers,
-pablo
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There are many here that know far more than I do - I've only been grooming part time for 20 years - many here have done so full time for longer than that. I do tend to like to understand why things work though, and enjoy trying new things mechanically (perhaps a prerequisite for groomers!), and am happy to share what I've learned along the way. This forum is of great value to all of us!
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pablo
Jan 31 2010, 03:57 PM
Howdy,

As I alluded, my neighbors have asked I groom on their property. W00t! My only concern is in order to get to their property, I need to cross a dirt road. The municipality (similar to a county) puts dirt on the road to keep it from getting too slippery.

I'm worried that if I'm repeatedly crossing the dirt road, "something" will wear out on my groom (YST Ginzu 84").

Am I needlessly worrying?

Cheers,
-pablo
We groom 2-3X /week and park our equipment in a large pole shed. Gravel floor, unheated. Cross a gravel parking lot....and I was worried, but after years of this-even the plastic comb looks good. What seems to wear here is the old skags on the tidd techs-they'd wear down in a season easily, but no problems on the G2 or Ginzu.
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Hi smeurett,

Excellent information! Okay, I'm not worried anymore ... :)

Cheers,
-pablo
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The only thing to watch is make sure you don't pick up to much dirt in the tracks or Ginzu and spread it along the trail for the next 100 yards. Probably won't be a problem but just something to watch.
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Howdy,

Good sound advice. Makes me think I may need a scrub area where I can drag/clean the groomer before I start on the real trail. Thank you!

-pablo
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Unless they really heavily sand the road, it really shouldn't be too bad. And if you time things right you can cross it before they plow or sand it... that way you avoid most of the sand all together.

Pick the tracksetter and knives up and you'll be fine. And go slow.
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pablo
Jan 31 2010, 03:57 PM


I'm worried that if I'm repeatedly crossing the dirt road, "something" will wear out on my groom (YST Ginzu 84").
Make sure the skegs on your Ginzu are in the lowest position, this will serve to keep the combing (mostly) off the road. Then when the steel skegs wear out, replace them. Better to grind down your steel skegs than to grind down your plastic combing!

Also, not trying to be "picky" here, but it's YTS... not YST! :P
Edited by Sherpa-man, Feb 1 2010, 10:53 AM.
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Howdy Sherpa-Man,

I've changed my original post so it now reads YTS. :\ Thx for the reminder. I was thinking: yellowstone rather than yellowstone track system ... I'll have to put my brain in reverse to get the bad acronym out.

I googled skegs so now I know what it means ... ahm, ... but I don't know how to adjust the skegs on my groomer. Any pictures handy?

Cheers,
-pablo
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Feb 1 2010, 11:32 AM
... but I don't know how to adjust the skegs on my groomer. Any pictures handy?
They're steel plates on either side of the frame where it contacts the snow (aka the compactor section), they've got three holes in them, the top holes allow the steel skegs to protrude farther beneath the groomer... new skegs are long enough to totally raise the combing off the snow (but they also should cut through the snow and allow the combing to do its job)... or dirt as the case may be! Ginzus are normally shipped with the skegs in the middle position, so yours may still be in that middle set of holes.

By the way, if you ever smack a skeg against a rock or other obstacle, the leading edge can get bent making the groomer harder to pull and/or leaving a little trench that the bent skeg digs.
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Hi,

Thank you for the picture. Super helpful. I'll take a look at mine shortly.

I also notice you have booties for your hydraulics. Is it to keep them warm? Wouldn't the hydraulic fluid not freeze?

Cheers,
-pablo
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Sherpa-man -

I've been thinking about adding skegs to my Ginzu (I have an early one, as you may have noted from the pictures...Y front end and all). Do you have any recommendations for making it work, or do the new skegs fit the older groomers? I know I can just cut and bolt a piece of steel to the side, but I do appreciate the time and thought that Doug has put in to the Ginzu, and that thought is worth something if he (or you) have a retrofit kit of sorts.

Which reminds me... lost a piece of comb on Saturday (buried log I think... not going up there again (to that trail) until we get more snow again, and I have a roller in tow!) and need to order some.
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Feb 1 2010, 01:29 PM
Hi,

Thank you for the picture. Super helpful. I'll take a look at mine shortly.

I also notice you have booties for your hydraulics. Is it to keep them warm? Wouldn't the hydraulic fluid not freeze?

Cheers,
-pablo
Pablo- we run those booties on our Ginzu also, but they are all electric articulators, not hydraulic, besides looking fashionable, they do help keep snow/ice out of the articulators so they don't freeze as easily. We had an issue with one this year where a fully topped out articulator froze and would not go down....had to be thawed out. Someone here pointed out a great suggestion to back them off a little when not in use.
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