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| Track Trucks...why such different prices? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 12 2008, 06:39 PM (862 Views) | |
| couchsachraga | Mar 12 2008, 06:39 PM Post #1 |
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I've noticed a HUGE difference in the prices of track trucks between gas and diesel models. 4-8k for a gas, and it seems 16k+ for diesels. I know most diesels are newer, and yes, better (particularly with drags), but is this the only reason for this huge price difference? Admittedly my use would be cross-country, but my terrain is faily hilly (so steep even the Alpine will only go down rather than up...and it needs to be well packed to get UP sometimes too...before going DOWN the steeper trail). Anyway, it seems to me for 16k why not get a bombi or super imp? Am I missing something here? Thank you! |
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| Pekabu | Mar 12 2008, 07:12 PM Post #2 |
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I haven't driven a gas job before, just non turbo diesels. We climb some pretty good size hills with it. Some we raise the drag all the way up, give her all the rpm's she'll take, and work the hydrostatic lever to get up and over. I think this is where the diesels have a lot of grunt and are able to get up and over. Sorry I can't answer your question directly, but for us if the gas job isn't as a good as a diesel than we wouldn't use it. |
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| fourstroke | Mar 12 2008, 08:37 PM Post #3 |
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If you have hills a alpine won't go up then you had best get something with grousers. We HAD a TT and went for one heck of a ride down a pipeline hill and that wasn't fun. :wacko:
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past groomers alpine polaris lx ASV track truck bombi's br-200 tucker 2000 present groomer 2000 Blazer 4 dr w/7' drag 2001 GMC Jimmy 4 dr w/8' drag web site tbsci.com central new york 28 years grooming | |
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| Steve.M | Mar 12 2008, 08:42 PM Post #4 |
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We have the turbo diesel, and I think most have agreed that it is much better on power when grooming. Other clubs I know of had the gas models that were made earlier, and from what I understand, they were under powered. I climb some really steep hills and as long as the RPS are kept up and you have traction, I can get up them. You can't take a "run" at hills like on a snowmobile. I know the cabs were smaller and lower on the earlier models than later-ours is a 1995 and has the "newer" cab. |
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| Pekabu | Mar 12 2008, 08:56 PM Post #5 |
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Something I was wondering the other night, how do you tell what year you have? I was looking at the serial number plate and it didn't have a year stamped. |
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| mgardner | Mar 13 2008, 11:49 AM Post #6 |
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The HD and HPT are diesel and have a totally different track. The machine has more track on the ground and a totally different skid frame. HPT- T stands for turbo. these are the latest version of the track truck. We have had a gas,a diesel and a HPT turbo diesel.The HpT is night and day over the others. 96,97,98 are the most common htp. But you could order 99 and i think a 2000 model year. |
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| e2spear | Mar 13 2008, 04:27 PM Post #7 |
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Let's see pictures of these steep hills. |
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| couchsachraga | Mar 13 2008, 05:33 PM Post #8 |
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I'll see what I can do as for images. The ice storm last weekend has destroyed a lot of trails for this year, and I haven't even tried going over to the steeps yet. When the trail is packed, no problem with an Alpine. It's when it isn't (and it needs to be groomed) that it's more of an issue....but I cut a separate trail up that is less steep for that very reason - my theory being if I can get my 4wd tractor up it in the summer, i should be able to get the Alpine up it in the winter. I didn't realize the track design on the track trucks varied that much. Sounds like when I feel like I can swing the $$ I should look for a diesel non-turbo for the best bang for my buck. |
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| rrnut-2 | Mar 14 2008, 12:42 PM Post #9 |
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The gas units had smaller hydraulic motors powering the tracks. The diesel units have larger SAI hydraulic drive motors, unless they have the Eaton upgrade kit. The suspension on the gas units wasn't as good as the diesel units. According to the shop manual I have on the gas unit, the engine was a Jeep engine was used in the Postal Jeeps and was rated at 30Hp SAE. |
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| Grooming-snow | Mar 14 2008, 03:54 PM Post #10 |
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Here is a spec sheet for a 1986 TT TT1986 gas
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Here is a spec sheet for a 1986 TT
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