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| roady | Jan 17 2008, 08:25 PM Post #16 |
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So your saying Brantingham was back up and running in 4 days? |
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| xcspxlt | Jan 17 2008, 08:55 PM Post #17 |
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<_< Pretty general statement. <_< My wife is not always happy with me either. Especially when it comes to grooming I cant think of a groomer I have driven that was perfect. What kind of complaints do your drivers have with tractors???? |
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| Jbrinkjr | Jan 17 2008, 10:25 PM Post #18 |
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Hi Marty, Was nice to talk to you the other night on the phone. Here is a picture of our JD 5525 w/ Soucy tracks. We love the tracks, but it would be nice to have the owners manual and parts list though. It's only been a year now and no manual yet.
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| Jbrinkjr | Jan 17 2008, 10:29 PM Post #19 |
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| couchsachraga | Jan 17 2008, 10:35 PM Post #20 |
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Maybe it's just the cab heights, but the tractor units (of all types) always look top heavy to me. A lot of what I groom is NOT level, even side to side, until I've been able to build it up a bit with snow over the winter. A "normal" snow groomer's tracks are wide enough for this type of stability - are the Soucy units as stable, or are they best left to "level' (meaning side to side, not up and down) trails? I'm thinking a smallish tractor (say, a JD4520) with tracks might make a really nice XC groomer and maintenance machine...if it's stable enough. |
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| trailboss77 | Jan 18 2008, 09:35 AM Post #21 |
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I think it's very interesting that years ago, everyone wanted to go with the tractor to get away from tracked machines because of the maintenance. Now everyone wants to put "tracks" on their tractors.
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Have been grooming since 1978 have covered more than 100,000 miles of snowmobile trail. | |
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| e2spear | Jan 18 2008, 09:46 AM Post #22 |
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How are the tractors going through creeks or waterbars that ar enot frozen yet. Do the tracks dig into the holes or pull right out? |
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| Greggie | Jan 18 2008, 01:07 PM Post #23 |
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If you fall through the ice with your front wheels with a tractor with 4 tracks, say 2 feet, I think it will be a pain to get it out. If the tracks are stuck under the ice, it is "impossible" to get out. Correct me if I am wrong. I have the same problem with my ATV with tracks. Thanks, Greg |
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| snoplane | Jan 18 2008, 05:05 PM Post #24 |
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You most be talking about surtrack total not a Soucy track System. yes if you go in to your neck that would be called abuse. |
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| Greggie | Jan 18 2008, 05:31 PM Post #25 |
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Spoke to some groomer operators with tracks on tractors from Metal Plessis and Soucy and as I said thay are not all happy with the track system. But I agree also is there a perfect groomer? For maintenance, I think the Sur-track and Marcel track system are pretty good. The ram steering is the less good thing. The 4-track tractors have as positive point that you can lease a new tractor for $5000 a year, install the 4 tracks on it, groom the season and bring the tracktor back. Again it is all what do you prefer. Our club had BR's, Tucker's, Lamtrack's, AFMI track systems and Sur-track systems. For maintenance for sure the Sur-track are the cheapest. I would like to see a checklist with all different groomers and from all groomers what the average cost is for a hour grooming. Don't think I will ever see this. Thanks, Greg |
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| xcspxlt | Jan 19 2008, 08:05 PM Post #26 |
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Jbrinkjr, Thanks for posting the Pics. Looks nice. Is that new snow or from last year
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| Yannick | Jan 20 2008, 12:24 PM Post #27 |
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| Steve.M | Jan 20 2008, 05:23 PM Post #28 |
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Yannick, What is the pressure per sq. inch for your Soucy tracks for ATVs, Tractors? The reason I ask is we've looked at using ATVs, Gators (with tracks) or the like for pulling XC ski trail drags, but the biggest issue has been ground pressure vs. a Ski-doo SWT (24" track) pulling a drag (like a Ginzu groomer by Yellowstone, or a G2 by Tidd Tech). Ski trails cannot have deeper treads showing up after grooming. Also, icy conditions seem to pose a problem unless you can stud the tracks somehow-all our SWTs have studded tracks and can pull up steep hills w/o a problem. Thanks! |
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| Yannick | Jan 20 2008, 06:58 PM Post #29 |
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The p/psi for a tractor is around 1.8 p/psi for a mid size tractor (100 to 130 hp). I don't know yet for the gator but give me a day and I will come back with the answer. Several XC clubs uses atv on tracks and they are very satisfied. For me the best utility vehicle is the gator XUV 850 Diesel. It uses a cvt transmission and have enough power to have fun and also work. We are actually designing a rubber track kit fir the gator and It will be available next spring. Our prototype is performing beyong our expectation. It will look like the RTV track kit with a little twist. You can put ice studs in the tracks going from the ice screws for motocross tires to studs with carbide. They cost a little more money but they last longer. Both of them are very very good on ice and will give you tremendous traction on ice. What I like about the Gator is the full four corners diff.lock. ![]()
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| Steve.M | Jan 21 2008, 09:55 AM Post #30 |
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Thanks for the reply and pictures-what is the widest tracks avail for, lets say a ATV or a gator/ranger type unit...in other words, most surface area tracks (longer, wider) -for grooming and climbing hills, more is better here. You mentioned some XC clubs use them-do you have any contacts I could check with? |
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