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Down Memory Lane; Rugby League referees lists
Topic Started: Friday, 24. June 2016, 20:48 (1,426 Views)
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An awfully long way down to start with:

1949=50

Grade 1

C F Appleton Warrington
P Cowell Warrington
G S Phillips Widnes
N T Railton Liverpool
F Smith Barrow
W Stockley Leigh

S Adams Hull
T Armitage Huddersfield
M Coates Pudsey
F Cottam Wakefield
L J Dalby York
A S Dobson Pontefract
W Hemmings Halifax
A Hill Dewsbury
A Howgate Dewsbury
H Squires Ossett
L Thorpe Wakefield


Grade 2

S Abram Wigan
A Bolton Manchester
D Halliday Swinton
H Holland St Helens
J W Jackson Barrow
T E Rees Oldham
T W Watkinson Manchester
A Kemp Warrington

K W Bland Huddersfield
R Gelder Wakefield
R Kendal Keighley
B Lester Leeds
E Thomas Halifax


Even I am not old enough to remember the majority of these, though a number of names are very familiar - especially George Phillips who handled the Cup Final several times, A Hill and Paul Cowell. My father used to recount - non too favourably - how A S Dobson used to wear a pair of white gloves during matches. Laurie Thorpe was a somewhat peppery character and died during a Christmas match.

F Smith achieved fame when he was appointed to referee the Championship Final in 1949. On the morning of the match he read in the paper (Daily Express?) the name of a different referee, so did not make the journey to Maine Road, the beneficiary being the inexperienced young Matt Coates - appointed as Touch Judge - who refereed the match and did so impressively enough to go on to have a long career as a Grade 1 referee, despite back problems that needed support during matches. Sadly he died soon after his retirement in the mid sixties. Poor Mr Smith stayed on the list for some years more, but never got another chance of either Cup or Championship Final.

Others that stayed on the list long enough for me to have seen them in action were Charlie Appleton, mentioned elsewhere on the board; Norman Railton, a teacher from Billinge near Wigan who was appointed to a Championship Final in the early sixties, won by Huddersfield with a controversial try-sadly he was another who passed away shortly after his retirement; Tom Watkinson - I seem to recall that he was a headmaster - always wore a black blazer and went on to referee the Cup Final in 1961(?); and another top name Ron Gelder, who among other things refereed the Cup Final and replay (at Odsal) in 1954, the latter being watched by a crowd given officially as 102,000, but reputed to be considerably more. Given that players and officials used to change in the pavilion at the top of the huge bowl, the trip back up at the end was never pleasant and in such a crowd must have been difficult. He eventually moved to Wilmslow and on retirement became a director at Salford. I feel sure that I saw H Squires fairly regularly, but as a Touch Judge. That is something to check, but referees were quite often demoted but carried on with the flag.

Two years later:

1951-2

C F Appleton Warrington
G S Phillips Widnes
N T Railton Wigan
F Smith Barrow
W Stockley Leigh
S Abram Wigan
J W Jackson Barrow
T W Watkinson Manchester

T Armitage Huddersfield
S Adams Hull
M Coates Leeds
F Cottam Wakefield
L J Dalby York
A S Dobson Pontefract
A Hill Dewsbury
A Howgate Dewsbury
H Squires Ossett
L Thorpe Wakefield
R Gelder Wakefield


Grade 2

D Halliday Manchester
H Holland St Helens
A Kemp Warrington
T E Rees Oldham
K W Bland Blackpool
G Battersby Barrow
R Welsby Warrington

R Kendall Keighley
B Lester Leeds
H Harrison Ossett
E Hopkins Leeds
J W Jowett Leeds
J P Hebblethwaite York


Of the new names, Messrs Jowett and Battersby were others who moved down to be Touch Judges, in which capacity I saw them quite regularly well into the sixties. (The official retirement age for referees was 50, but for Touch Judges 55.) Ron Welsby remained at Grade 2 for a decade, before moving back down to the line for several seasons. The most notable new name is John Pearson Hebblethwaite, who was my youthful favourite referee. He too was still a Grade 2 a decade later, but was promoted to Grade 1 and refereed the 1968 Water Splash Cup Final - remembered for Don Fox's missed kick in the last seconds. Unfortunately he lost his wife to cancer and when due to face a charge of shoplifting a pie, committed suicide in his caravan just months after his final.


Forward 3 seasons to:

1954-5


Grade 1

C F Appleton Warrington
G S Phillips Widnes
N T Railton Wigan
F Smith Barrow
W Stockley Leigh
S Abram Wigan
J W Jackson Barrow
T W Watkinson Manchester

T Armitage Huddersfield
S Adams Hull
M Coates Leeds
A Hill Dewsbury
A Howgate Dewsbury
H Squires Ossett
R Gelder Wakefield


Grade 2

T E Rees Oldham
G Battersby Barrow
R Welsby Warrington
R L Thomas Oldham
W Rigby Leigh
E P Wilmot Rochdale

H Harrison Ossett
E Hopkins Leeds
J W Jowett Leeds
J P Hebblethwaite York
E Clay Leeds
A E Durkin Dewsbury
L Garbett Castleford.

Of the names that have not appeared before three went on to have long careers at Grade 1. The rotund Eric Clay, nicknamed Sergeant Major, and Richard Llewellyn (Dickie) Thomas with the appropriate initials each went on to referee a Cup Final. As mentioned elsewhere, Dickie was the last referee regularly to turn out in a blazer. Albert Durkin eventually moved to Blackpool and on retirement was associated with the Blackpool Borough club before his early death. W Rigby was known as a long-serving Touch Judge, while Len Garbett was best known as secretary of the Castleford club.
Edited by Jim Carr Fan Club, Thursday, 14. July 2016, 15:45.
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Not quite my era but have always taken an interest in Rugby League, probably because my father played for Bradford Northern, I think in the 1920's and my mother an avid fan of Halifax. Not a game for women spectators in those days and she used to tell me that often she would be the only female in the ground. Brave girl I would think but she used to go with her father and if there were any adverse comments or swearing, he would say "Give order, there is a lady present" and all around would meekly shut up. Not a reaction you would expect today!

The refs list doesn't really ring any bells apart from Eric Clay. I didn't realise that 'Sergeant Major' was only a nickname - I had thought he had actually held that rank as he came across as the most no nonsense referee I can remember in any sport.
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I believe that Eric Clay had actually served in the RAF. The nickname may have been an "Eddie Waring -ism."
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Fantastic nostalgia JCFC, though like reflector I can't recall many of these refs.

However was interested in the name of Ron Welsby. Do you know if he was any relation (father possibly) to Alan Welsby who was a RU international ref in the 1970s/80s?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kqXTrw1VFBE

Footage of that amazing 1968 wet Cup Final with the incomparable Eddie Waring
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Many thanks to Hendo for reminding us of that amazing Challenge Cup Final from almost half a century ago. My recollection of it was mainly the appalling conditions and the incredible Don Fox miss right at the end. And as for Eddie Waring, his was a voice and style you either loved or hated.

I believe he came from Dewsbury although my mother who was in the hate category despite being Yorkshire born and bred always said that she had never heard anyone in her native county with such an accent. At least most sports commentators in former times had a distinctive voice and style. Besides Eddie, I am thinking of people such as Raymond Glendenning, Kenneth Wolstenholme and David Coleman (football), Peter O'Sullevan (racing), John Arlott, Brian Johnston and EW (Jim) Swanton (cricket), Max Robertson and Dan Maskell (tennis), Harry Carpenter (boxing), Ted Lowe (snooker), Peter West (rugby union), Ron Pickering and David Coleman (athletics), Dorian Williams (showjumping) etc., etc.
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And the best of all, Bill McLaren!
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Sunday, 26. June 2016, 10:15
And the best of all, Bill McLaren!
Of course! My failure to include him is down to a failing memory for names, I fear.

I have to say though that my list didn't necessarily imply quality as if I'm honest some were not that good - it's just that they were all we knew and had fairly distinctive voices and styles.
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Sunday, 26. June 2016, 10:15
And the best of all, Bill McLaren!
Of course! My failure to include him is down to a failing memory for names, I fear.

I have to say though that my list didn't necessarily imply quality as if I'm honest some were not that good - it's just that they were all we knew and had fairly distinctive voices and styles.
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And not forgetting Henry "old fruit" Blofeld, whose public schoolboy accent together with his random observations of things happening in the ground but which were irrelevancies to the actual play were the stuff of legends
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQwrRtipPLA

Footage here of Sgt Major Eric Clay reffing the bloody battle between GB and Australia at Headingly in 1963. No nonsense approach too

3 sendings-off and a few scraps too

See roughly 1.54, 4.57 and 5.45 for the dismissals

Also Eddie Waring with a priceless comment about the early baths on 6.19; brilliant!
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Sunday, 26. June 2016, 17:37
And not forgetting Henry "old fruit" Blofeld, whose public schoolboy accent together with his random observations of things happening in the ground but which were irrelevancies to the actual play were the stuff of legends
"Blowers" of course is still one of the current bunch of TMS commentators although not such a regular, no doubt due to age. I saw him last winter in "An Evening with Blowers" on stage - very entertaining. He was in conversation with the former TMS producer whose name I just forget.

I've also seen similar "Evenings" with "Aggers and Tuffers" and also "Aggers and Boycott." All were well worth seeing if they come to a venue near you. I wasn't expecting to like Boycott but he came over live much better than on radio. Still fairly full of his own importance but more of an ability to laugh at himself than I was expecting with Aggers putting him in his place and taking the mickey.
Edited by reflector, Monday, 27. June 2016, 17:54.
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Moving forward to the time when I became a regular watcher, we come to

1961-2


Grade 1

C F Appleton Warrington
D T H Davies Pendlebury
R Gelder Wilmslow
J Manley Warrington
N T Railton Wigan
K R Rathbone St Helens
R L Thomas Oldham
T W Watkinson Pendlebury

E Clay Rothwell
M Coates Pudsey
D S Brown Dewsbury
G Davies Wakefield
A E Durkin Dewsbury
L Gant Wakefield
G Philpott Leeds
H Pickersgill Castleford
C Whiteley Ossett
G Wilson Dewsbury
L Wingfield Normanton


Grade 2

F J Howker Milnrow
H G Hunt Culcheth
E Lawrinson Warrington
S Shepherd Oldham
R Welsby Warrington

R Appleyard Leeds
B Hall Lupset
J P Hebblethwaite York
R Oliver Lupset
H Pearce Leeds
G Scott Wakefield
J Senior Bradford
L Thompson Batley


Of those not previously mentioned:

Denis Davies was possibly the leading referee over the next few seasons, with a couple of finals to his credit.

Joe Manley was a schoolmaster (Maths, I seem to recall) and a genuinely nice man. He managed to keep control of games in a gentle sort of way and it was not until near the very end of his career that he was obliged to send a player off - much to his regret, I believe. He refereed the Cup Final in 1965 - regarded as one of the best - and the replay of the 1968 Championship Final.

Of Mr Rathbone I have no recollection, other than the name.

Derek Brown was another from the field of education, I believe, and moved to the Preston area later in his career. He was named on the panel of referees for the world cup one year, but did not referee a match as far as I know. He did referee the 1969 Cup Final, however.

I did see Gwyn (Glyn?) Davies on the odd occasion, though he subsequently reverted to Grade 2 and eventually lost his place altogether.

Laurie Gant had played for Featherstone Rovers. He had a cobbler's shop near to my Great Auntie Nora's home in Wrenthorpe.

George Philpott was another particularly nice chap, fairly small and grey haired. He was always immaculately turned out - credit for which he gave to his wife - and his black shirt was supplemented by a red one and a particularly smart white number with black collar and cuffs. He refereed the 1968 Championship Final, which ended in a draw after some controversy over a simultaneous touch-down try. After his wife received threats, he dropped out of the replay. On reaching the statutory retirement age of 50, he reverted to Touch Judge and carried on for the further 5 years.

H Pickersgill worked for the Post Office and went on to become Head Postmaster in Halifax.

Colin Whiteley was one I rarely saw and he did not last very long at the top. My impression of him was of a lack of authority, so perhaps that is not surprising.

George Wilson was small, grey haired and red faced. He had a way of whistling for everything and anything when things got a bit heated, with a penalty immediately awarded at every scrum until things calmed down. The nearest he came to a major honour was as reserve referee at Wembley in 1965. He was referee for one of Fartown's most ignominious defeats - a 3-0 loss to Liverpool City at Knotty Ash, though no blame attaches to him for that.

I never saw Les Wingfield in the middle as far as I can recall, but he was seen regularly as a Touch Judge after he moved down.

Fred Howker was originally from Atherton - more of him anon.

Harry Greenhough Hunt was my particular pet hate - and he seemed to follow my team around. He was appointed to the 1966 Cup Final - surely the worst ever match, as Wigan could not field a regular hooker and St Helens, in the person of Alex Murphy, exploited this by conceding penalties immediately on the occasions when their opponents gained the ball. It needed a brave referee to take strong action and Mr Hunt was not that man. He was subsequently based at Guiseley and then Prestbury, neither of them cheap areas, so must have had something about him.

Eric Lawrinson went on to have a good career as a Grade 1, though he suffered an eye injury playing squash.

Sam Shepherd was another head(?) teacher. He was a steady, unspectacular Grade 1 type of referee, tallish, with greying hair. Another to referee the Cup Final, in 1974 I think. He also held a position as chairman of the referees or something similar. He also had the unique distinction of refereeing the final of the Bottom 14 Competition, played under an experimental release-the-ball-when-tackled rule, in which Huddersfield beat Doncaster at Tatters Field.

Robert Appleyard went on to become a steady Grade 1, though not in the top flight of officials, though I do recall that rather to my surprise he put in what I considered to be the best display of the season one year.

His Leeds colleague Henry Pearce I recall as a burly chap, who served as a Grade 1 for several seasons. He at least has the honour of sharing his name with an FA Cup Final referee.

Brian Hall was one who did not make the grade and reverted to Touch Judge for many seasons. He has been mentioned before as the referee of a match between Huddersfield and Castleford. He was waiting in his black shirt for the teams to emerge - from a different entrance. Castleford came first, but instead of their usual yellow shirts wore black with a yellow and white hoop. Quick retreat from Mr Hall, who reappeared in white, onl;y to find that Huddersfield had gone for white with a thin claret and gold hoop. Further retreat, and not having a third option, he eventually reappeared in borrowed attire - probably the only time a match has beem referteed by someone in claret and gold hoops.

Of Mr Scott I have no recollection at all, but Messrs Thompson, Senior and Oliver were all moved down and had long careers as Touch Judges. Mr Oliver was notable for a hairstyle - balding at the front, but wild further back - that always reminded me of a lion. It is curious how many Touch Judges I can recall in some detail, which was never the case with more anonymous football linesmen. I shall spare you the details however - for now!
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By 1965 the Rugby Football League Official Guide, bearing a remarkable resemblance to the Football League one photographed elsewhere, cost 4/- (In 1949 the price had been 1/-) Several long-serving referees had gone into retirement, with the list now reading:

1965-6

Grade 1

B Baker (Horwich)
D T H Davies (Pendlebury)
H G Hunt (Culcheth)
T Keane (Oldham)
E Lawrinson (Warrington)
S Shepherd (Oldham)
R L Thomas (Oldham)

R Appleyard (Leeds)
D S Brown ( Dewsbury)
E Clay (Rothwell)
L Gant (Wakefield)
P Geraghty (York)
J P Hebblethwaite (York)
H Pearce (Leeds)
G Philpott (Leeds)
H Pickersgill (Halifax)
G Wilson (Dewsbury)

Grade 2

J T Dixon (Barrow)
E Glazebrook (Wigan)
H Horsman (Gatley)
F J Howker (Milnrow)
E Leach (St Helens)
H Morgan (Oldham)
M J Naughton (Widnes)
R Nealons (Barrow)
H Ostle (Aspatria)
G T Scholefield (Salford)

H Cook (Hull)
G Davies (Wakefield)
R Jackson (Halifax)
G Scott (Wakefield)

This was to prove an unusual season. Grade 1 was largely populated by familiar names, but three had moved quickly to that level.

Brian Baker I never saw.

Peter Geraghty was never a particular favourite, having a somewhat prissy, almost effete, appearance on the field, but he remained at that level for many years.

Terry Keane was one whom I tried to avoid where possible, but again he stayed at that level for many years. He perpetrated one of the most bizarre decisions I have ever seen. In one match at Fartown a kick through went beyond the in-goal area, rebounded off the fence behind the goal and was picked up by a defending player, who was as amazed as everyone else when Mr Keane allowed play to continue. What made this more remarkable was that behind the goal was a straight sprint track, several lanes wide, which the ball had had to cross in each direction.

Of the new names among the Grade 2s, Messrs Cook and Nealons never crossed my path, in what proved to be relatively short careers.

Mr Scholefield, too, eventually reverted to Touch Judge status, where he served for many years.

Eric Leach remained at Grade 2 for several years and after retiring operated as kit-man at St Helens.

Mr Ostle was another who lasted only a few seasons, which was a shame, as the one time I saw him, in dreadful weather conditions, he gave the best single display of refereeing I ever saw.

Mick Naughton was a slow burner, staying at Level 2 for many years, before becoming one of the game's top officials, before dying prematurely. There is a clip somewhere of him pushing away a player who ventured to disagree with a decision. For me, however, as I have mentioned before, he was guilty of just about the worst refereeing display I ever saw - a match between Huddersfield and Bramley, in which he failed to take action to halt the mayhem on the field. Only the frequent interventions of his Touch Judge, E Grantham of Hull, saved the situation from getting even worse. Had Mr Naughton been unaware of the brutality he could perhaps have had some excuse, but the fact that he subsequently reported the two teams suggests that he had ducked out of his responsibilities on the pitch.

Ronnie Jackson was a cheery-looking chap and moved up to Grade 1 a couple of seasons later. It was a surprise that he never quite made it to the top.

The main feature of the season, however, came quite early on. After just a few games, there was an outcry about the allegedly poor standard of refereeing and the authorities seemed to panic. Experienced referees in the shape of Messrs Howker and Davies were demoted, though the former continued for many more years as a Touch Judge. With them went four of the newcomers, who can scarcely have had more than a handfuk of games. Mr Dixon had been criticised after one match as having the least control the writer had ever seen and on demotion appeared to leave the game as too Mr Morgan (something at the back of my mind wants to call him Hopkin.) Mr Horsman stayed on as Touch judge for a short while, before he too left.

The most curious case of all was that of Eddie Glazebrook, mentioned once before. After the demotions were announced, he had one appointment left and was permitted to fulfil it, which seems a very odd state of affairs. I was present at that match and Mr Glazebrook put in a very good performance. He chose to continue to serve as an excellent Touch Judge for many more years.

The one positive aspect of this carnage was that it created openings the following season for two referees who went on to great things. While the Grade 1 list remained unchanged, other than D S Brown's move from Yorkshire to Lancashire, four new names appeared at Grade 2. W Silcock and T A Rynn, both from Wigan, did not last long, though the latter subsequently continued as a Touch Judge.

The other side of the Pennines however saw the emergence of W H Thompson (Huddersfield) Billy Thompson was quite a character and definitely no shrinking violet. He established a reputation as a disciplinarian, even before his dismissal of Sid Hynes in the Wembley final of 1972, and went on to handle many top games, though as hinted elsewhere, he tended to go his own way and did not seem to support the referees' crackdown some years later.

Even more significant though was the arrival of a young referee from Wakefield, G F LIndop, who quickly and deservedly rose to the top of the tree. For me the peerless Fred Lindop raised refereeing to a whole new level and his consistently excellent performances earn him the accolade as the best referee I ever saw - only Russell Smith in recent years coming remotely close to matching him. On reaching retirement age, many, many years down the line, he carried on in the amateur game and I believe even turned his hand to Rugby Union.
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By 1968-9, therefore, the list read:


Grade 1

D S Brown (Preston)
D T H Davies (Pendlebury)
J Elliott (Barrow)
T Keane (Oldham)
E Lawrinson (Warrington)
J Manley (Warrington)
S Shepherd (Oldham)
R L Thomas (Oldham)

R Appleyard (Leeds)
E Clay (Rothwell)
P Geraghty (York)
J P Hebblethwaite (York)
H G Hunt (Guiseley)
R Jackson (Halifax)
G F Lindop (Wakefield)
G Philpott (Leeds)
W H Thompson (Huddersfield)
G Wilson (Dewsbury)


Grade 2

B Baker (Horwich)
E Leach (St Helens)
M J Naughton (Widnes)
G T Scholefield (Salford)

H Cook (Hull)
I A Meskimmon (Brighouse)
J Reed (Leeds)

As previously noted Messrs Thompson and Lindop had quickly passed through Grade 2 and arrived at Grade 1. Derek Brown had moved from Dewsbury to Preston and Brian Baker had dropped back to Grade 2 while Henry Pearce had left the list. Two Grade 2 relative newcomers from Yorkshire did not go on to greater things.

The notable newcomer, already having reached Grade 1, was John Elliott, a newsagent from Barrow in Furness. His rather precise application of the laws did not endear him to many spectators, though I always considered him pretty good. At one point it was announced that he had been included in the Panel for the World Cup, which caused some surprise, even greater surprise being caused when the Rugby Football League issued a further announcement shortly afterwards to the effect that his name had been included by mistake.



The next few years saw the suicide of John Hebblethwaite and the retirement of other senior officials Denis Davies, Joe Manley, Dickie Thomas and George Philpott, the last mentioned opting to serve for a further 5 years as a Touch Judge, with the usual comings and goings at Grade 2. As mentioned on Pyramid Patrol, I had spotted a young referee born in Oldham but having relocated to Yorkshire (in itself a sensible move!) performing admirably at Grade 5 in a reserve team match and he quickly passed through Grade 2 to be on the Grade 1 list for

1970-1

Grade 1

D S Brown (Preston)
J Elliott (Barrow)
H G Hunt (Prestbury)
T Keane (Oldham)
E Lawrinson (Warrington)
M J Naughton (Widnes)
S Shepherd (Oldham)
R Wood (Dalton in Furness)

R Appleyard (Leeds)
E Clay (Rothwell)
P Geraghty (York)
R Jackson (Halifax)
D G Kershaw (Easingwold)
G F Lindop (Wakefield)
W H Thompson (Huddersfield)
G Wilson (Dewsbuty)

Grade 2

J W Ditchfield (Barrow)
K L Gaskell (Wigan)
A Givvons (Oldham)
W J Greenhalgh (Ashton in Makerfield)
E Leach (St Helens)

K Allatt (Meltham)
H Cook (Hull)
E Hill (Bradford)
H F T Mason (Halifax)
J Wharton (Mirfield)


In addition to the admirable Gerry Kershaw referred to above, and who is still actively involved in the game, Grade 1 had seen the rapid arrival of Mr Wood. He stayed at Grade 1 for a few years, before being dropped to Grade 2 - a shame as I always found him rather good.

By now work had taken me out of Rugby League territory, so my knowledge becomes (even) more sketchy.

Of the new Grade 2 referees, Kevin Allatt, Alec Givvons and later Henry Mason went on to reach Grade 1

Edited by Jim Carr Fan Club, Monday, 5. September 2016, 15:44.
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