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| Topic Started: June 29, 2009, 4:41 pm (407 Views) | |
| Mackem ref | June 29, 2009, 4:41 pm Post #1 |
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Clicky What do we think about the ICC reviewing their policy, and allowing associations to appoint more Umpires to stand in 'home' internationals?? Personally, I think this would be a good move. They could allow 4 on the list, and say that any Umpire who is on the elite panel, or is allowed to umpire abroad (ie Nigel Llong), aren't allowed to stand in 'home' internationals. This would build up experience for the younger officials, and share the workload further for the officials at the top. |
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| Hendo | June 30, 2009, 11:34 am Post #2 |
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I personally am all for it. To be honest I dont think the International Panel has been too great a success; the extremes from the excellent Simon Taufel and (before he retired) David Shepherd on one hand and some of the other umpires who, quite honestly, are not international class but politically have to be included on the panel, are huge. At least 4 on the panel at present dont really deserve their place. England have suffered most. When all home tests were umpired by home umpires there was rarely any controversy and we were guaranteed some quality umpires - going back, the likes of Barrie Meyer, Ken Palmer, Dickie Bird and Nigel Plews to name but a few. Quite how the Elite panel has only 2 of our umpires on it plus Nigel Llong on the reserve list while Australia have at least 5 is a mystery. We have the most competitive league in the world and the most matches yet cant even fill our quota of umpires - echoes of the FIFA list here I think!! is this a problem endemic to English sport? I personally would go back to home tests and one day matches being umpired by one home umpire and one from abroad. Some might say its retrograde but you need the best umpires in the world at this level and we can produce them. I hope in 2/3 years time Rob Bailey and Tim Robinson are promoted. Not sure about Peter Hartley or for that matter Nigel Llong; both were originally appointed as specialist TV umpires and then promoted after vacancies became available; does not follow that good tv umpires make the best on-field ones, though Ian Gould IMHO has proved that it can be done. |
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| greeny | July 1, 2009, 2:03 pm Post #3 |
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I don't rate Bailey at all, but I would hope Michael Gough might get up there in a few years, though Richard Kettleborough is the one most likely to next make the step up, given his 3rd umpire status on the International Panel. |
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| Hendo | July 11, 2009, 5:30 pm Post #4 |
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Well that absolute joke of an lbw decision by Doctrove against Bopara shows what I meant when I said that the ICC Panel was in many cases a failure. Clowns like this should not be umpiring at the highest level; give me a couple of decent English umpires any day. |
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| reflector | July 12, 2009, 8:40 am Post #5 |
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I agree about Doctrove but not so sure about going back to the days of non-neutral umpiring. I seem to remember the concept of having neutral umpires came about after England (like other countries) being on the end of some pretty dodgy decisions in Australia, as well as the Indian sub-continent and the West Indies, from umpires who could most politely be described as 'homers.' |
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| greeny | July 12, 2009, 11:31 am Post #6 |
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I seem to remember one of our series in Sri Lanka being completely dominated by terrible umpiring decisions, one test match with the Sri Lankan umpire (Peter Manuel) giving everything to the home team, the next test match seeing the Sri Lankan umpire (KT Francis) giving everything to England. Our home umpires were always impartial, just a shame other countries' umpires couldn't be just as impartial. |
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| consulrjo | August 10, 2009, 1:52 pm Post #7 |
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I personally would like to see the International Panel consist of just 4 umpires from each country. No TV Umpires/On-field Umpires. Just four Umpires who can stand in all forms of International cricket as and when required. The home boeards should appoint who they think are the best 4 performing umpires and then replace as one retires or is promoted to the Elite panel. I think the four from the ECB should be: Nigel Llong Richard Kettleborough Richard Illingworth Michael Gough I would pick all of these guys as they are fairly young. The role of the International panel is develop umpires and prepare them for the Elite panel. They only participate in home ODI's and T/20's and the odd oversees Test match. The other guys mentioned are really too old to be considered in my opinion. They would need to serve two to four years on this panel prior to getting promoted to the Elite panel and by then they would be well into their 60's. So with these guys they will all be 50 and under after four years on this panel leaving the option of 15 years on the Elite panel. I belive the International Panel should be the recruitment pool for the Elite panel. So putting the likes of Cowley, Duddleston, Evans, Harris, Jesty and Mallender on it would be a waste of time in my opinion. They are great umpires but they will not end up on the Elite list. The younger guys with training and experience may well end up on the list. |
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