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| Freston | Jan 6 2006, 04:28 PM Post #1 |
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Guild of Necromancers: Give us your hungry, your sick, your cold
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I'm dead. Well, I was dead. I had completely given up on Günter, my half-orc Bar4/Ran4. You should know, I had a great time playing him. There is something about unleashing the strength of a straight foreward axe wielding brute. And roleplay. I had such great times roleplaying him too. He almost died before, when a troll critted on a rend attack. -9 HP instant. Alway did I display the scar that encounter left. I had several scars worthy of rememberance, and I've shown them to elven queens, beggars and what have you. His youth was troubled. He was created, as most half orcs, during a raid. And fighting Orcs (his favored enemy) his battlecry was: My mother is no Orc whore!!! So when the last strike of the swamp monster got me to -16 HP, I almost tore my sheet. I didn't, but I wish I did. The party druid, unknown to me, had prepared Reincarnate. Did I want to come back? Just roll d%... and I did. It came up 96. For crying out loud. 96! Orc! I'm an Orc! Roleplay suggestions? (Of course I like it. I'm just acting that I hate it. I mean, what the fuck?!? Concidering my background and all. If you'd have to think it, you could never come up with this.) |
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| Shapeless Caren | Jan 6 2006, 04:37 PM Post #2 |
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I have a question here that you may hate,... If you are an orc, is it not the rule that it is evil to study your own race? |
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| Fixxxer | Jan 7 2006, 01:21 AM Post #3 |
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Nope. |
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| Freston | Jan 7 2006, 06:19 AM Post #4 |
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No, I don't think it's evil. I do remember hearing it before. Like a Human ranger may only select Humans as Favored Enemy when he's evil. But I've yet to find any rule to back that up. But the question remains. The situation is rather intriguing, and I really want to make something of it. And besides, I as a DM know how townsfolk react when an Orc walks in. But different DM, different Orcs. It was the first time I played under this DM, although he is one of my regular players. So I don't know how he'll react. |
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| DaveReaves | Jan 7 2006, 10:10 AM Post #5 |
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I have also herd the 'to take your own race as a favored enemy race is evil' but despite trying can find no written rule about it. Perhaps you could try to hide your true orc status by filing down your teeth, keeping your hair exactly like you used to and anything else you can think of to make yourself look like a half orc. The only experiance I had with this spell was playing a gnome Rogue/Illusionist and I got changed into a Bogart (my DM was using a 2nd eddition table, it was something similar to a static charged ewok). Now I didn't like being a bogart so but a sorcerer in my party had gotten a hold of a powerful polymorph item that made its target change permanantly. The jack ass was going to charge me character something like 7000 gold to use one charge! Well the character had to sleep sometime, I stole the item, changed myself, sold her stupid toy, and used the money to scribe polymorph into my book. |
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| Shapeless Caren | Jan 7 2006, 11:06 AM Post #6 |
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Your are right, but despite the fact there is no writen rule, it is still evil. To kill your own race? Thats evil. Unless the race is evil, then, hmm. Drow killers... |
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| hylentor | Jan 7 2006, 01:26 PM Post #7 |
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So I guess all the soldiers we have over in the middle east right now are evil then, eh? Regardless, I don't think this would be a "must be evil" to have that particular favored enemy as A. Orcs already like fighting each other when they don't have anyone better to fight and, more importantly, B. It was pre-existing. Its not like the character sat down and said "hey, I'm an Orc now. Let me find good ways to kill orcs..." You can't make knowledge vanish. Well, short of Feeblemind, I guess Basically, for roleplaying, you can be kind of like an Orcish Drizzt in stranger's eyes. In your own, I'm not sure, outside of generating a complex since you are now what you didn't really like. |
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| Shapeless Caren | Jan 7 2006, 01:29 PM Post #8 |
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True, but would it be evil to continue learing to kill orcs? He is not really an orc, but a half-orc in an orc's body. So, it would not be evil for that reason. |
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| Didge | Jan 7 2006, 03:05 PM Post #9 |
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Easy roleplay solution: Have him scream aobut the injustices on having been turned into an Orc. Then you could have him either 1) Mope about in a complete funk for awhile, not really caring about anything and becoming inwardly repressive and just apathetic towards everything and everyone. 2) Have him commit suicide. He may or may not scream at the druid, depending on whether he may want to come back (through yet another reincarnation spell), or simply refuse to live in his new orc body. He may also seek items, such as a hat of disguise, if forced to be in an orc body to ensure others do not see him as an orc. Or he could take this the other way and view this as a golden opportunity to sneak into an orc encampment and cause as much havok as possible. If he was slightly evil or not good (in general) he may even use this as a means of inflicting harm on others so they see that orcs are bad too. Just a thought. |
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| Mordien | Jan 8 2006, 04:02 AM Post #10 |
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Dear Shapeless Caren ! If killing your own race is outright evil then There is No hope fore the race of Man |
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| Shapeless Caren | Jan 8 2006, 07:12 AM Post #11 |
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Lets see here from another race's perspective (Begin) We are in a war, with other humans. We are not fighting the war for our land, freedom, or saftey. We murder each other daily, with no regard for another. We are capable in a war, of wiping everthing from this earth that lives, except cochroaches. (End) That seems really really bad now does it not? I wish I was an elf now.... |
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| Mordien | Jan 10 2006, 12:12 PM Post #12 |
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Yepp ! not saying that the race of man are the smartest ever |
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| DaveReaves | Jan 10 2006, 12:49 PM Post #13 |
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At the risk of developing an alignment arguement- its not simply the act of killing someone that makes it good or evil. Killing in defence, for instance, is obviously nessasary for survival. Real world exaples are netoriously hard to pin down under D&D's broad alignment system. Additionaly, the favored enemy class ability is more than just extra damange on targets of the choice. Bluff, listen, sence motive, spot and survival are all given a +2 modifer when used in connection with your favored enemy. A rogue/ranger with favored enemy humanoid(human) would be a formidable trickster and chaotic to no end, but not evil as he commits to evil acts even to those he has studded to gain advantage both in and out of combat. A paladin/ranger could make great use of a +2 bonus listen, sence motive and spot aginst his own race, not to mention an extra +2 attack/damage would be handy when bringing evil humans to justice. |
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| Aladdar | Jan 10 2006, 12:56 PM Post #14 |
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I would argue that this player is not really an orc, just a half orc caught in an orcs body. In that sense, he's just wearing a costume. |
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| Mordien | Jan 12 2006, 03:17 PM Post #15 |
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Exactly Aladdar he is improving and taking Face Of to another lvl. In fact he is working on that script
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