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Chris Benoit - Tradgedy; Latest WWE News
Topic Started: Jun 27 2007, 07:09 AM (267 Views)
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Hi,
I got word on a Wrestling tradgedy last night. Apparently Wrestler Chris Benoit has committed suicide after killing both his wife and 7 year old son at their Atlanta home. This is only what has been reported and not my own thoughts.

What do I think?, I'm not sure. At the moment I can only say what I followed and what I know. I didn't grow up watching Benoit but I did recognise his stage name immediately in the news last night. For the most part from what I've heard he was a family man and very professional.
Taking this into consideration, and that he was soon to be inducted into the Hall Of Fame and win back his title... why would he do this to himself and his own family?

I've lurked around forums and saw cussing against Benoit and fans turning their back on him. Maybe this helps them deal with the news they've been handed. If that is the case then so be it, to me it doesn't strike me as something the "real" benoit everyone knows and likes would do.

I myself have used corticosteriods for 8 years in conjunction with my own illness. I myself have severe mood swings and sometimes get overly anxious. I can't think that these alone would of caused Chris to do what he has done. But they may have been one of the defining reasons to set him off.
From my own personal usage of Steriods I've been fine one minute and then "rageful" the next, why? I don't know.. it feels strange to associate myself to this tradgedy but in a way.. I do kind of feel that I understand the formula for what's happened.

Steriods don't just affect you on a physical scale in weight and appearance.. they unbalance you mentally. I won't make a joke on any of this, but in my own personal opinion I believe for someone to be a hall of fame wrestler and be seen as a true sports personality.. you have to always set a good example.
Having said this I myself wouldnt consider him a hall of fame wrestler, once you make that decision to take someone elses life, how does this condone setting a good example?
That would be my choice, which is really a sad ending to Chris Benoit's life and career, it definately seems like he's not planned to do it. It's not a sane act of murder where he planned this out months ago. It's happened over the course of the weekend and one stupid decision led to the next. It's a terrible time of course if your an assoiciate or friend of the family of the Benoit's and of course my thoughts go out to them and everyone who still liked Chris for the entertainment he gave throughout the years.
What are your own thoughts on this current event?
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Such things happen, with celebrities and normal folks.

I agree jokes should not be made about this.

A celebrity killing themself, or otherwise being self-destructive is one thing.

But, this guy killed his wife and kid. That is a different story.


Steroids, and other drugs, are really no excuse. If someone makes the decision to take a drug, they can accept the consequences.


Medical use is one thing. (I personally would likely avoid even that, in the case of mind-altering drugs, but I can see someone taking medication under such circumstances.) But, recreational, or cosmetic drug-use is different. Benoit made a choice, and his wife and kid paid for it.
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This is really tragic and horrible that this event had even taken place, and ending the way it did. I honestly didn't hear anything about this until now. So first off, thanks for sharing this with us Richard because this is definitely an eye-opener, reminding us (celebrity status or not)... that we're still human beings, full of flaws and desires, the very same ones that sometimes can corrupt the human heart and the within.

In my opinion, steroids has nothing to do with this or at least to the point of murder. It sounds like it was more of a psychological issue than anything. Depression at one point and time, could've been the root to his ill-fated decisions in taking someone else's life. And in this case, his wife and child being on the brutal end of his acts and such...

I'm still a bit shocked, but at the same time, I realize the surreal reality of it all. But at no time, does anyone have the authority or right to take someone else's life - NOT EVER! I'm really saddened that actions such as this are committed with such carelessness and the feeling for loss of hope...

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I have not followed the results, but there is some speculation among doctors in general that frequent head injuries can drive someone mad. That, more than steroids, may have been the case with Benoit.

Still, we have to be cautious not to make Benoit the victim here. He did murder two people, including a small child.
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Okay, so I was driving home from my girlfriend's as I had the night off from work tonight, for the 4th... I was listening to ESPN Radio and got a chance to catch the early part of the "ALL NIGHT with Jason Smith" radio show.

He said somethings that just royally pissed me off, as I truly felt, as if he had pulled some random things out of his anus, to say about the Chris Benoit and the horrific incident that took place concerning the former professional wrestler.

This guy seems to talk a lot and almost always has a very opinionated discussions about particular situations and drama that goes on in the sports world and anything closely related. I know I'm a bit critical and maybe even being biased about his shows but how he continues to express the extremes whether he's for it or not... he tries to make himself sound like he knows it all and probably believes it! by expressing things the way he would see it or do it, in handling them given the situations and scenarios if he were the one to experience them. He's one of those guys that seems to think that whatever he thinks or whatever opinions he seems to conjure up, expresses it as if the whole entire world would see it the same exact way as he would.

Getting to the point, regarding the Chris Benoit tragedy, Jason Smith begins by stating that he does in fact feel the use of steroids did have an effect on Benoit, by further stating that the use of performance enhancement drugs have been known to associated with some cases of depression...

My toes immediately curled after hearing this, knowing that I listen to his biased shows from time to time... knowing how this dude goes on and on about how he feels the whole world should see things and in fact, feels that it does see things the way he does... I gagged at hearing his statements and felt even stupider having listened to what he had to say about this whole situation...

With that being said, I had to do a search and googled this and didn't really find anything at all stating that depression is even caused or is even remotely associated with the use of steroids! Well, nothing that caught my attention or was even significant from my searches at least.

Jason Smith should be fired and really needs to keep his opinonated remarks to himself because it's really making him sound like a narrow-minded bigget! Please forgive me of my outburst but this guy thinks he knows it all when in fact he has absolutely no idea. But in his defense, in some of his past radio programs, he has made some good points about some of the topics he has managed to talk and go into in-depth discussions about... :ph43r:



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Well mate, theres nothing worse than someone stating how they should handle matters when they've never themselves been in that situation.
The truth is nobody knows how to react, can we guarantee that Chris Benoit knew himself what he was doing, was he in full control?

I have to bluntly disagree with your statement about Steriods. They have a huge history of causing huge mood swings amongst the people taking them. I took steriods for 8 years solidly and I have to admit even now I sometimes fly off the handle. My Professional Consultant advised me that it may take anything between 12-24 months for the effects to go away. :(

Here is what I know from my own experience and research.
The medicine used in Steriods are involved in a wide range of physiologic systems such as stress response, immune response and regulation of inflammation, carbohydrate metabolism, protein catabolism, blood electrolyte levels, and behavior. (From Wikipedia)
This was also printed on my own Prednisolone Tablet leaflet.
The leaflet for my steriod tablets states:
Possible side effects include fluid retention of the face (moon face, Cushing's syndrome), acne, constipation and mood swings.

Under Mood Swings: (from wiki)
A mood swing is an extreme or rapid change in mood. They are commonly associated with mood disorders, of which the classic example is bipolar disorder (also known as manic depression) and also a major factor in hyperactive or hyperactive/inattentive ADHD.

So the fact that Steriods can cause depression is proven., I myself have found that some afternoons nothing will make me happy. The usual watching of Lee Evans or GIJOE Picture taking.. nothing.. and I sit and think for ages and become solidly unhappy.. However does this mean we should have sympathy for Chris Benoit. Maybe.
He did however enter a sport knowing that at some stage he would be offered these drugs.. and knowing the side effects.

The question we all have to ask is do we believe what the media tell us? Or do we believe what the clinical experts tell us before taking this medicine?

Before I was given steriod treatment I had other options for treatment and just like Benoit I took steriods well educated and knowing their damaging effects. I only took these things for 8 years and Benoit was a PW for 22. I can't help but feel this must of affected his behavioural pattern as a person.

Does this excuse him from smothering his 7 year old son and killing his wife? No. I don't really buy that at all.
This is a huge tradgedy for the sport of Entertainment Wrestling. Primarily as most people will now associate Chris for his ending rather than the entertainment he gave.
I never grew up watching him, but I will say that the majority of heroes as it were who commit a bad act in real life have no place to be idolised later on in life such as the WWE Hall Of Fame.

The shocking truth is that the most part people would rather believe my telling version of events. That Chris Benoit suffered unbearable hardship and suffered a Bad turn of moods to push him into this crime. If this was the case, and it was all done in a spur and rash moment. (which is usually what happens in mood swings) Why go through the 48 hour weekend? Why place bibles next to both bodies?

Nobody really knows what to believe from the media. They will always want you to watch or view their shows. They'll tell you anything to pull in the biggest ratings be it in newspapers, tv shows or radio. It's no surprise that you have gotten wound up at this guy on the radio, (as this is what he wanted).

You choose yourself what to believe. I'm siding with the mother and child. Primarily as whenever I've been in a mood swing I've always had enough thought process to bring me round and not do something as irrational has he has. Mood Swings are something that come and go and YES you do stupid things and fly off the handle.

I took my steriods well educated as I'm sure Benoit was knowing the lasting side effects. My opinion is I think they may of caused Chris to fly off the handle. It's something only he himself will know. I personally think he's done this as a get out. The media are sticking two and two together to come up with five to create a bigger and more scandalous story by blaming ROID RAGE. If it was roid rage and it was something he couldnt of controlled he would of certainly not known to place the bibles and carry this murder and suicide out as effectively as he did. When going into Mood swings you have NO control. It's a dragons like temper and you are in a rage.
Someone that is mad and in a rage doesn't mark out respect by placing bibles...
for me that says it all.
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There are also some doctors who say that repeated head injures (such as a wrestler or football player would take) can cause mood swings etc.

Perhaps that, and steroids drove Benoit over the edge. Either way, assigning that kind of causation should not negate Benoit's blame.
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