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| Protection of Sapient Rights; Proposed by Excidium Planetis | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 22 2015, 10:06 PM (162 Views) | |
| Christian Democrats | Jul 22 2015, 10:06 PM Post #1 |
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HMSM James II
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Voting on this proposal begins in six hours. In-game debate thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=340934
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| Christian Democrats | Jul 22 2015, 10:16 PM Post #2 |
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HMSM James II
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Against. There are major problems with this proposal. 1. People can roleplay nonhuman intelligent life if they want, but they shouldn't force it on the rest of us. 2. This proposal's conflation of species and race in the first two clauses cheapens actual efforts to secure racial and ethnic equality. This proposal comes across as insensitive to the actual abuses that disfavored groups have suffered in the real world throughout history: from slavery and genocide to more subtle forms of maltreatment. 3. The second-to-last clause condones the discriminatory view that some humans are not, in fact, persons by suggesting that some human beings could fail an exam to determine their "sapience." |
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| Guy | Jul 22 2015, 11:11 PM Post #3 |
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Old Admin Slave
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Against, because effectively enforcement is completely up to the member state. While the method of determination may be seemingly equal, the actual method may indirectly discriminate (discrimination in fact, disparate impact, etc) against a species. |
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Jul 23 2015, 05:28 AM Post #4 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Against |
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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| Dvorak The Great | Jul 23 2015, 08:30 AM Post #5 |
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Former HR Officer
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Against. |
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"Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." - Dwight D. Eisenhower | |
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| Opressed Ones | Jul 23 2015, 10:17 AM Post #6 |
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Dedicated
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Against |
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| Karolingia | Jul 24 2015, 03:29 AM Post #7 |
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Lost and Confused
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Against. By leaving the definition of sapience up to each individual nation, this resolution will allow for a multitude of definitions of sapience, denying rights to beings considered sapient in one nation because they happen to live in another--and this assumes that all nations act in good faith, which I think we all know will never happen. How difficult can it be for a segregationist nation to define sapience in such a way that only humans fit the requirements? Attempting to protect the rights of sapient beings requires a standard definition of sapience; without that, the proposal is about as useful as a dead doornail. |
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