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| Repeal "Defense of Self and Others"; Proposed by Bananaistan | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 9 2015, 02:12 AM (102 Views) | |
| Christian Democrats | Feb 9 2015, 02:12 AM Post #1 |
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HMSM James II
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This proposal will come up for a vote in about three hours. In-game debate thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=328135
Click here to read the original resolution
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| Christian Democrats | Feb 9 2015, 02:14 AM Post #2 |
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HMSM James II
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Against. The original resolution isn't great, but this repeal proposal is poorly written. Furthermore, I think it exaggerates the problems of Defense of Self and Others. |
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Feb 9 2015, 06:21 AM Post #3 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Against
Edited by Chester Pearson, Feb 9 2015, 06:21 AM.
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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| Cormac | Feb 9 2015, 06:58 AM Post #4 |
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Dedicated
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Against. |
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Cormac Skollvaldr Resident of the Rejected Realms "We are all misfits living in a world on fire." - Kelly Clarkson, "People Like Us" | |
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| Opressed Ones | Feb 9 2015, 07:44 AM Post #5 |
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Dedicated
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Against. |
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| Gruenberg | Feb 9 2015, 12:06 PM Post #6 |
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Dedicated
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(Not voting.) Obviously in favour, repeal is well written and makes a solid case against a stupid resolution. |
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| unibot | Feb 9 2015, 03:18 PM Post #7 |
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Chief Propagandist
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Voted Against. |
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| Kenny | Feb 9 2015, 07:52 PM Post #8 |
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WASC Suicide Bomber
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Abstain. I wasn't a big fan of this resolution, but the repeal's case is a bit overly legalistic. Pretrial hearings can always sort whether a suspect used reasonable force (if prosecutors would rather not bring charges), without the need for unnecessary and costly trials. I also don't think the resolution gives anyone carte blanche to claim self-defense and avoid prosecution, as the repeal claims. That's just ridiculous.
Edited by Kenny, Feb 9 2015, 07:53 PM.
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| Karolingia | Feb 9 2015, 08:21 PM Post #9 |
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Lost and Confused
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For the moment, against. The repeal suggests that the primary issue with GAR #183 is the assumption of a judiciary. Is this as problematic as the repeal claims? It also talks about the right to a fair trial, so there must be some kind of judiciary assumed in WA law already, at least as far as I can tell. |
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Feb 10 2015, 06:27 AM Post #10 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Why? Because it over exaggerates the problems, and is full of legalese? The original resolution was a joke, but the repeal is flat out asinine. |
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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