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| War Crimes Tribunal; Proposed by Chester Pearson | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 28 2015, 04:41 AM (242 Views) | |
| Christian Democrats | Jan 28 2015, 04:41 AM Post #1 |
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HMSM James II
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A legality challenge was filed against this proposal a week ago. We're about 30 minutes away from voting time, and the GA moderators haven't issued a ruling one way or the other, so I guess that means we're voting on it... In-game debate thread: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=326189
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| Christian Democrats | Jan 28 2015, 04:45 AM Post #2 |
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HMSM James II
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Against for poor writing. It's not clear at all what the IWCT and member states would do; the terms "war," "war crimes," and "crimes against humanity" are never defined; and the preamble uses "The World Assembly" and "The General Assembly," indicating a lack of proofreading on the parts of the main author and the coauthor. All around, it's simply a bad proposal. |
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| Cormac | Jan 28 2015, 04:48 AM Post #3 |
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Dedicated
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Also against for poor writing. You would think two authors could do better than that. Aside from the poor writing, the phrase "hereby creates" in a GA resolution is almost a guarantee I'll be voting against. I really hate resolutions that primarily create new WA bureaucracies. |
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Cormac Skollvaldr Resident of the Rejected Realms "We are all misfits living in a world on fire." - Kelly Clarkson, "People Like Us" | |
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Jan 28 2015, 05:18 AM Post #4 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Are they defined in Universal Jurisdiction? Also what possible legality challenge could you have had against this one? I of course vote FOR! |
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Jan 28 2015, 05:20 AM Post #5 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Like I care how some pinko from The Internationale votes anyway. Misely will force you to vote against it, just to spite me. |
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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| Gruenberg | Jan 28 2015, 05:59 AM Post #6 |
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Dedicated
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(Not voting.) I'm voting against for now because it's so poorly written and poorly executed, but I may switch to abstaining depending on how irritating the other arguments against are. |
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| unibot | Jan 28 2015, 07:09 AM Post #7 |
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Chief Propagandist
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I'm against. This could have been written better - I think the authors were rushing it to beat Auralia to the queue, perhaps?
Edited by unibot, Jan 28 2015, 07:10 AM.
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| Guy | Jan 28 2015, 12:10 PM Post #8 |
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Old Admin Slave
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And it's not like you can blame him. Edited by Guy, Jan 28 2015, 12:11 PM.
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| Opressed Ones | Jan 28 2015, 02:27 PM Post #9 |
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Dedicated
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Against. Poorly written. |
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| Cormac | Jan 28 2015, 06:30 PM Post #10 |
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Dedicated
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>implying anyone would have to force me to vote against Chester's proposal out of spite.
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Cormac Skollvaldr Resident of the Rejected Realms "We are all misfits living in a world on fire." - Kelly Clarkson, "People Like Us" | |
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| Evolu Tanis | Jan 30 2015, 11:14 PM Post #11 |
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Epistemological Terrorist
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Ye gods, Chester... thou most tragic legislative figure... it'd be repealed a resolution or two down the line anyway for Clause 2's mandate that nations execute warrants issued by an undefined (typo'd) organization! I dislike Auralia's blocker against international involvement with this issue as much as you do, but this was... careless. ![]() I voted for with my WA country, but I'm... un-optimistic. |
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Here lies a toppled god. His fall was not a small one. We did but build his pedestal - A narrow and a tall one.
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| Banned: Chester Pearson | Jan 31 2015, 03:32 AM Post #12 |
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Resouluton Author Extraordinaire
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Wasn't left with much of a choice on the matter. I blocked his first attempt, by campaigning that god awful marine disposal shit to vote, not realizing it was going to pass by a landslide. He was in the process of redrafting his, and I couldn't find an illegality to get it yanked a second time, so had to push this, hoping the mods will rule UD illegal again. I had a feeling it was going to get basted out of the sky, but it is only failing by a small margin.Either way, if UD fails, we can proabably get a blocker in place instead. |
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The Right Honourable Chester B. Pearson, Prime Minister, United Federation of Canada
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| Gruenberg | Jan 31 2015, 04:59 AM Post #13 |
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Dedicated
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Why does everyone keep calling a proposal on universal jurisdiction "UD"? What does the D stand for? |
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He was in the process of redrafting his, and I couldn't find an illegality to get it yanked a second time, so had to push this, hoping the mods will rule UD illegal again. I had a feeling it was going to get basted out of the sky, but it is only failing by a small margin.
12:22 AM Jul 11