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| Topic Started: Aug 10 2011, 05:11 PM (1,332 Views) | |
| Thought Transference | Aug 13 2011, 09:45 PM Post #61 |
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professional loafer
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Depends upon what they require from us in exchange, ST. |
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| Tikal | Aug 13 2011, 09:56 PM Post #62 |
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O.o We've required nothing. I've offered cooperation from moment one. What else could you possibly want? |
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| lord alphanesia | Aug 13 2011, 10:05 PM Post #63 |
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By its nature the question is unawnsersable. If you ask me for my WA today, I will reply "I don't have one today but I have one waiting." Ask me tommorow and if you get me during the very few hours I actually have one, i'll say its busy in a raid. If the fenders turn up and you ask again, sure, i'll tell you where it is. Otherwise it goes back into the pile of dead nations, i resign from the wa until close to next update. Thats the whole point. You'd be asking for information that is entirely useless to you other than "I have a WA right now." If we were to invade TRR, you would know, because we use flags. We ALWAYS use the flags...thats kind of the whole deal. We have taken the opinion that if we can prove we have WA's engaged elsewhere, that should satisfy your interests. |
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| Spartan Termopylae | Aug 13 2011, 10:57 PM Post #64 |
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TT, aye, tis what i meant by negotiate :-P |
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| Thought Transference | Aug 13 2011, 11:13 PM Post #65 |
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I'm not ignoring what you said, Tikal. I'm calling attention to the question of "TRR citizenship" means to a nation which owes to LWU the military-style loyalty inherent in being a LWU soldier. There's a good reason I originally called attention to your words that:
You're so clear about it: LWU exists for the sole purpose of raiding, infiltrating and colonizing. LWU's military operations, according to you, are not a side-interest, but "the *only* thing they do". This make me think that, when a LWU nation calls himself or herself a "citizen of TRR", they define "citizen" very differently from the way non-invaders define it. It suggests to me that for "professional raiders, who *only* raid", calling oneself a citizen of TRR (or anywhere else) might be no more than the first stage of a mission to infiltrate and colonize TRR, in preparation for a full raid. Your clear declaration of what it means to be LWU suggests that for LWU members, "citizen of TRR" is a lesser loyalty, one that is subject to the military priorities imposed by LWU's military chain of command. That's consistent with the fact that appeals have been made to the priority of the LWU chain of command as the reason for not answering security-related questions in TRR. For this reason, I've raised this question, and suggested that we need a proper discussion in order to clarify the nature of citizenship that can reasonably be expected from soldiers whose allegiance is elsewhere and who are or may be actively under orders from a foreign power which defines itself as an army of "professional raiders, who *only* raid". The persistent refusal of LWU to recognize that their hard-core raider stance makes it difficult for us ignore the security implications of their presence here. The sooner we sit down and talk about the potential conflict between LWU's reason for being and ours, and address the central question "how do we make it safe for TRR to have LWU in our midst?", the sooner we can try to come up with a compromise that allows both TRR and LWU to protect our mutual regional interests. ADD: As for the question about requirements from LWU, I refer to what appears to be an insistence that we take it for granted that having LWU here poses no possible security threat, and therefore we shouldn't ask security-related questions. Also, there's the much-debated matter of what Blue Wolf meant in IRC by the offer to "protect TRR for a small price". |
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| Evil Wolf | Aug 13 2011, 11:36 PM Post #66 |
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We also have and have had members of Lone Wolves United with citizenship in TNP, TWP, The Pacific, The East Pacific, and Lazarus. None of them have had any issues. |
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| wabbitslayah | Aug 14 2011, 04:17 AM Post #67 |
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This is getting stupid. Will the non-LWU members please shut it? This is an embassy not a 5 page warzone. |
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| Guy | Aug 15 2011, 12:28 AM Post #68 |
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Hmm... Don't see why any Citizen of this region should shut it.
Edited by Guy, Aug 15 2011, 12:29 AM.
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