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| How did you pick your discipline?; Hunters, Jumpers, Eventers, Dressage, etc | |
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| BABYGREENTB | May 1 2012, 07:44 AM Post #1 |
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All - just pondering this morning...what made you choose your discipline? For me, I love the beauty and grace of the hunters. I also love riding a good hunter - it's like a stroll in the park, and such a fabulous de-stressor. I'm also a bit of a timid rider, and the pace and height of the A/A hunters is very much in my comfort zone. On the flip side, I don't love the politics, the measures some people go to in order to get their horses quiet, and it drives me nuts that one little mistake can knock you out of contention. What about you - what made you choose your discipline? If you have changed disciplines, why? |
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| Fish Cheeks | May 1 2012, 08:04 AM Post #2 |
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I grew up doing h/j and I suppose that was just luck of the draw because that's what the barn offered (that or Western, which didn't interest me - I wanted to jump!). Went back to h/j land after college and showed hunters for a while but I was discouraged by my lack of funds - the area in which I lived didn't really have schooling shows so it was all A shows with the corresponding cost of horses, barns, accouterments, training, shows, etc. Plus, I didn't like all the drugging of horses that I saw going on and the horse management in general. Switched to jumpers for a year or so because that was the only other trainer in the barn who would allow sort of an a-la-cart program where I didn't have to be In Training to ride with her. Decided I didn't like her training methods after my horse started stopping so I decided to give dressage a try. Did that for a year or so but realized I missed jumping so found an eventing trainer who would let me do just one lesson a week vs. being In Training. So I decided to do eventing before ever actually doing it! Then I got divorced, moved to my farmette, had a horse who was NQR, so bought Paddy . . . an eventer . . . and still I hadn't ever actually done it! The first time I ever rode a XC fence was when I tried him out! So I evented Paddy for a couple years and then decided to stick with dressage because Paddy and I can argue a lot when it comes to the fences and I got sick of feeling like I sucked all the time. Did exclusively dressage for a couple years and showed Paddy and he did well. But again, I missed jumping. Paddy actually prefers to go like a hunter, and so do I. So our rides these days consist of me riding him forward on a loose rein and jumping him more like a hunter, which he likes better. We also hack out on the trails on a loose rein and he can just stretch forward instead of being in the dressage "frame" (for lack of a better word, I hate that word). I am doing dressage with Mac because he needs more "direction" with his body and how to move. I've started jumping him as well and we're going to our first itty-bitty horse trials in two weekends! ACK! That was a long answer!! Really *I* prefer to ride around like a hunter and jump a perfect fence (instead of getting over any which way), but I recognize the benefits of dressage so do throw that into my training program. Basically I'm pretty wishy-washy when it comes down to sticking to one thing. |
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| Deleted User | May 1 2012, 08:12 AM Post #3 |
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Well, you know me So, you know more about my background but....I grew up riding english and I was fortunate to get a broad depth of experience especially in Europe. When I landed back stateside, I was fortunate that my junior trainer pushed us to dabble in everything. I loved it all, but especially jumping! I think I do the hunters now because I have a hunter...but the next one I get, I want to get an OTTB and do the jumpers. I like that it is an equal playing field - you either ride well and have the talent or you don't. I like that there isn't a political element, I like that the horse isn't penalized for personality. I do love the tradition of the hunters, but like BBGTB said, I don't like the lengths some go to get the "quiet" that is needed. Oh, and I don't have the pocketbook to show hunters like I really want to either
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| Indy | May 1 2012, 08:41 AM Post #4 |
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I started riding at summer camp where they taught both Western and English (and by taught I mean that they had both types of saddles, lol). The beginner kids rode Western and the kids with more experience rode English. I rode Western for two summers but in my little kid head, their delineation meant that English was better because the older girls got to ride English. Flash forward to our move to Indiana when I was in 4th grade. I met a girl in the after school program who took lessons at a near by h/j barn. I convinced my mom to let me take lessons with her after school (her mom could drop us off at the barn if my mom could bring us home) and that was that. That first barn was almost strictly hunters. All the lesson factory kids rode hunters and when you got your own horse, you rode with the BO's daughter who did hunters & eq. On occasion she'll have a jumper, but she's almost exclusively hunters. After I left that barn, I wound up at a barn that was almost entirely jumpers, like outside of the lesson kids, me and my pony were one of three hunters in the entire barn. I had no desire to sell my pony for a Children's jumper and there weren't pony jumpers at the time (which is a shame because the little sh*t would have been so much fun as a jumper, he looooved to run and jump) so we were the token hunter pony. At horse shows we'd have a barn full of bay & chestnut OTTBs and my little fat spotted pony who wanted to be a race horse. On occasion, if we'd go to a show where there were little puddle jumper classes, I would take my pony in the jumpers but since we had spent so long getting him to not be a runaway, I was absolutely not allowed to ride it like anything else than a hunter course. Now that I'm an adult, I'm a big ol chicken sh*t who wants to do nothing even remotely jumpery. One of these days I'll get my nice, steady-eddy A/A hunter but until then I'll putz around the low adults. |
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| FlashGordon | May 1 2012, 09:17 AM Post #5 |
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Oh let's see..... when I was 8 a girl scout leader took pity on me and talked my parents into letting me try some lessons with her daughter's trainer, who was a dressage rider. I rode with her until I was about 13, which I am incredibly grateful for-- most kids don't start in dressage, and definitely not with the kind of trainer she was. It gave me a really good foundation that has carried me through the years. She stopped training after she had her first child, so I switched to the other instructor at the barn, who did hunters. She was getting more into AQHA at that time so we followed suit. She found me a lovely QH gelding that wasn't really fancy enough for the circuit but great for 4-H and open shows, and we kicked butt on the local circuit. I loved that horse! In college I worked at a summer camp that I had attended as a child. All of the staff except for myself came from the UK, Australia or New Zealand. They were all BHS certified and did show jumping, eventing, dressage, pony club, blah blah. Our version of "hunters" was a foreign concept to them! They were a great influence on me and I learned a ton working there about management, teaching, and the fact that there was riding beyond the ring! I also rode a LOT and mostly young, green, or "problem" horses so I learned a lot about training too. After that I kind of kicked around riding whatever was available. Dabbled in dressage but couldn't find an instructor I loved, and the culture here in that community is kind of weird, and I'm not really into it. If I had the funds and the horse, I'd probably really love to do the hunters for real, though I agree it is quite political and there are a lot of practices I don't necessarily agree with. ![]() Lately I have been taking lessons at an eventing barn and I LOVE it. They are super welcoming, totally cool with people of all levels, and horses of all backgrounds. It's been a really fun and eye-opening experience. They also remind me quite a lot of the fun I had working at horse camp, with my UK friends who definitely had more of an eventing flavor. The trainer is also cool with me doing a la carte which is nice, and not something you get at the reputable hunter/dressage barns in the area. I think Fancy and I will dabble in a little of everything, at a low level. Which is fine with me and I kind of like doing my own thing and not having to commit to a program. Right now it is just about enjoying my horse time, enjoying the company of my horsey friends, and seeing where things take us. ![]() |
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| gunnar | May 1 2012, 09:18 AM Post #6 |
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I grew up riding English. My Grandfather jumped horses in the cavalry so of course we rode english. As a kid I did it all. Hunters, jumpers, Eq, eventing, endurance and gymkana. When I returned to riding in my 30s I rode all 3 hj classes. I am good as a hunter and Eq rider with jumpers being my least favorite. In 2003 dh loses job so I had to give up hj land. Moved to an eventing barn in 2005. Still there but I am not really an eventer. Just hate the uneven footing and the speed. If I could I would be back in hunterland. I was much better at that! |
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| TarynJ | May 1 2012, 09:38 AM Post #7 |
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Hmmmm. As a kid my grandmother bought me a box of used books that obviously came from an eventing mad kid. Novel version of International Velvet, The Five Circles (about the 1956 Canadian eventing team), and a bunch of British pony eventing books etc etc. The barns I took lessons at were both all-rounder, PC type barns so everyone learned to go XC etc (still have nightmares about having to jump down banks with my eyes closed and arms stretched out to the side). Then... other than a couple of lessons one summer and a few trail rides, didn't sit on a horse again until I was 30. Started back at an eventing barn with a school string in Ontario, and less than six weeks later got a job offer to move west, where eventing school strings (or decent school strings at all) are few and far between. Ended up leasing at Old Trainer's barn despite the fact she was more dressage focused, and when I started riding Fox, realized that dressage is actually pretty awesome. So when I bought my own horse I bought something that was as dressage bred as I could afford, but could still hop over some little fences for $hits and giggles. Of course said horse has now essentially written in large letters on the side of the barn she'd rather event... ![]() Edited by TarynJ, May 1 2012, 09:39 AM.
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| WhySoSerious | May 1 2012, 10:02 AM Post #8 |
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Off visiting Candy Cave, be right back.
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No one in my family likes horses and none of them every have. I had a neighbor who started ridng and I had always looked up to her as she was a few years older than me. She started taking English lessons at a local barn and so did I. When she switched barns and started doing a little bit of everything with the 4H club, I did too. For a few years I did English and Western, then I switched over to just English as that was what I liked most. I always wanted to jump. When my parents bought me my first horse shortly after I started riding, all I wanted to do was learn to jump. That fall I followed my neighbor back to the barn where I first started taking lessons and began working with a hunter/jumper trainer. I continued to take lessons with her during the spring and summer once I moved her back to the other barn. Once I learned how, it turned out that was not something she enjoyed. I tried for a few years with her, as well as rode borrowed horses and eventually sold her to get a horse that wanted to do what I wanted to do. I then bought a little TB mare who was a bit of a train wreck. Like any pre teen, I wanted what I wanted and no one was going to convince me to change my mind. I had the opportunity to lease a really nice horse from one of my trainer's clients, but was set on owning my own horse. I started off doing 2'3 hunters and jumpers with her, then switched solely to hunters and equitation. After showing her for two summers, I had gotten too tall to look decent on her and she just wasn't going to take me much of anywhere. So I sold her and leased horses for the rest of my junior career. Two older, well schooled hunters and a jumper. I was never very good at the jumpers, as I liked the floaty hunter ride and the scenic route a bit too much. I always enjoyed doing equitation as well. My current horse was bought with the intentions of doing jumps and equitation. He just isn't a hunter. We pretend to be hunters at the local schooling shows sometimes, but that just isn't him. He really likes to hack around like a hunter, but I can't ride him like that to the fences. I haven't actually shown him in a jumper class yet, because he just hasn't gotten broke enough, but that's our goal. We're going to our first horse trial next weekend. ![]() So, in short, I was a copy cat, but then really ended up enjoying jumping when I found my former trainer. I would still ride with her, but she is in Alaska and I'm in Kansas. I have always enjoyed jumping and there's just nothing like putting in a good hunter round. Though maybe I will feel differently when I complete my first cross country course.
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| Kassandra | May 1 2012, 10:12 AM Post #9 |
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For me, it all boils down the the 1970s, and a love for Billy and Blaze, and Horse of Course magazine. I love all English riding, and from the age of 9 would ride anything in any discipline. It's probably why I still love it all today. |
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| Won for Me | May 1 2012, 10:21 AM Post #10 |
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Interesting question and I wish I knew the answer. My sister was the first one to take lessons in my family, but it was because my father wanted us to ride. My brother took her lesson one time she was sick. I got led around after the lessons (being the youngest). I know my father wanted us to ride English and we probably just went to the closest barn. |
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| SidesaddleRider | May 1 2012, 10:47 AM Post #11 |
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My father, his older brother, my aunt, and my 2 cousins all rode -- Western. My dad could get on and ride, but didn't know much, and my uncle and cousins were into the cowboy sports - roping, team penning, etc, as well as dabbling in some trick riding, and my aunt did barrel racing. When I first started riding (14 months), my aunt would hold me in front of her, and we would go for 1+ hr rides in the local park (~500 acres) by their farmette. At 3, I had my own pony, with a western saddle, and we would go for 3-4 hr rides in the park (I was on a leadline). At 4, I had full control of my pony, and the rides could go up to 6 hrs. I had a blast, but even then, I would always post to the trot. I had no clue what I was doing, but it certainly felt more "right" to me. I loved to gallop, jump logs, etc. when we were out. At 6, my mother decided that my brother and I should take some lessons, instead of just riding by instinct, so we went to a really local-type person who taught both English and Western. My brother far preferred Western, and I ONLY wanted to ride English. From there, I bopped around to a few different trainers, and got involved in Pony Club. My parents leased a few different horses for me once I outgrew my pony (he was a small, and I had really long legs). My parents then bought my brother a really nice Western Pleasure type AQHA mare, and when I was 9, we started looking for a horse for me. My trainer at the time did the hunters, so that was the primary goal, but I was still doing Pony Club, so the horse had to also be able to do the eventing aspect of PC, and since my brother was showing AQHA, it would ideally also be a QH so that we do the same shows. I tried several horses that I loved, but they were either a) out of the price range, b) not really suitable, or c) didn't pass the vet. Well, almost 14 months later, my hunter trainer returned from a show telling us she had seen a mare there that we should look at: just turned 4, Appendix QH, bay, 15.3 hh, gorgeous mover, willing jumper. So we went to see her, and brought her home a week later. I had her for 8 years, and did a little bit of everything with her: hunters, eq, jumpers, eventing, & dressage. She was really more of an eventer/jumper -- she had absolutely no stop in her, was catlike, and incredibly well-broke on the flat. I showed her in the hunters and eq with success (she rarely lost a hack class), but it required LOTS of lunging and riding her down, which wasn't really fair to her. She did very well in the jumpers when I did them, but I personally preferred the hunters of all the things I did with her. I sold her when I went to college to an event rider from KY. As to the sidesaddle, ever since I was about 5, I would throw my leg over the pommel of the saddle when cooling out my pony/horse, and say "I'm riding sidesaddle!". I have no idea where that came from, but I just ALWAYS wanted to do it. I bought my first sidesaddle in 2002, taught myself how to ride (or remembered how to ride, if you believe in past lives, because I just knew what to do), and haven't looked back since. When I moved to VA after college for work, I rode horses at a hunter sales barn just for saddle time, and got to show some nice horses there. I really got the bug that I wanted to go hunting, and was finally able to do so in 2003. When I moved in with Mr. SSR in summer of 2004, hunting became my major focus. I still show in the hunters and sidesaddle, but only do so after the hunt season is over, as I hunt Mon, Sat, Sun (Mr. SSR on Sat/Sun), and it is too much to do both. I have found hunting to just be the most fun I could have on horseback -- and hunting sidesaddle is even better, as it really combines all my love of the traditional hunter horse.
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| TortoiseT | May 1 2012, 10:53 AM Post #12 |
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I never had the desire to do the jumpers....always loved the hunters. A previous trainer had always tried to get me to buy a jumper when horse shopping, but I just loved my hunters. fast forward a abut 2 years-I had switched trainers and the two of us had plans to fly to Europe to go horse shopping (for hunters, of course....still had no desire to do the jumpers). Before going to Europe, the agent had sent us some pictures of a horse he said was the "horse for me". I was a bit of a novice rider at the time (only had a couple of rated shows under my belt) and was not comfortable buying a horse I had not sat on, plus the thought of going to Holland for a week to try horses was over-the-moon exciting for me. Day 1 in Holland, the horse from the pictures showed up at our host farm at 10pm. I was running on about 36 hours of no sleep, had already ridden a fair share of horses, and was about to pass out from exhaustion. They threw me up on the mare and had me jumping 4'6" combinations. I knew she was the horse for me after about 5 minutes on her back. She was the only jumper I tried on the trip.....and even though I rode a bunch of hunters I fell in love with, I knew she was the one- and I was right. I get all teary eyed just talking about her. Sold all my hunters a few years later and never looked back. Jumpers are my life and that horse is my everything! Edited by TortoiseT, May 1 2012, 10:58 AM.
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| SnackPack | May 1 2012, 09:26 PM Post #13 |
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It took quite some time for my love of horses to turn into actual saddle time, and even then it was mostly rental horses. They were all in western saddles, thus, I rode western. I started taking lessons with a friend at a western stable and pretty quickly she decided to move and take english lessons elsewhere. I followed right along as it didn't really matter to me how I was riding, just that I was on a horse. Her parents were the ride to the barn, so where she went, I went. Apparently my love of horses/riding was not stronger than my hatred of wearing the rubberbands for my braces and I spent a year or so not riding. It was the only thing my mom could think of to incentivize the rubberband wearing, or to punish me for not doing so. By the time I started back, the friend had moved to far away for carpooling and I had to make a choice. English was it...and I had still never jumped a fence at that point. It took another handful of years before I actually got to jump, but it didn't matter. I was riding (and developing a really nice seat that I wish I still had. :sigh:). I finally got to start jumping when a kind boarder (Rhonda Bushno...you ROCK!!!!) let me ride her older, semi-retired mare. All that said, I don't think I ever really chose a discipline. When I was coming up, you did hunters and eq until you were older/more experienced and then you progressed to the jumpers. Not jumping much, I never progressed (and in fact, only jumped 2'9" a few times as a junior) and most of the people at my barn focused on hunters anyway. Truth be told, I would probably prefer to be strictly an equitation rider, but who hears of an adult doing only eq? So I do hunters mostly with my favorite hunter class being the handy. My trainer thinks I should do jumpers because I LOVE to turn...I just have no desire to do it at speed. I also really love flat classes (both eq and hunter). Probably all those years of riding without jumping. I think the strategy of hacking well is intriguing. If I could build a division just for me, it would be an eq medal (with work-off), a handy hunter course, a challenging eq flat (no stirrups, lenthenings, collection, etc) and a HUS. I'd be in heaven.
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| DoubleWhammy | May 1 2012, 10:20 PM Post #14 |
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Interesting thread! I started like many, as an 8 year old at summer camp "riding" Western. We were lucky to have a lesson barn so close to home, smack dab in the city...of course it's now apartments or something like that, but I digress. I carpooled with my best friend until her allergies supposedly convinced her she no longer wanted to ride. Everyone there started Western, and then could switch to English as they progressed if they wanted. I did years as a once a week lesson kid, at that barn for the first 6 months and then at 2 others until I could drive myself. Looking back, it's amazing I learned as much as I did considering it was a special occasion to have more than one lesson per week. I was lucky and often got to hack others outside of my Saturday lesson. I rode a lot of greenies and ponies that I probably didn't have any business being on, but that's what happens when you ride with a trainer who has more horses than good sense. A few local shows here and there, but I was rather clueless. As far as I knew, the difference between equitation and hunters was that you sat the trot in your courtesy circle for the eq and posted for a htr class. I ran out of time and energy (fighting my parents to let me ride more) in high school and did the varsity sports thing. I started riding again senior year, trying to make up for lost time. IHSA in college was fantastic for me. Three lessons a week/for nothing more than a minimal semester facility fee/shows paid for?! It didn't really matter that my riding education wasn't furthered, I got a lot more saddle time. Team sport aspect of that got the parents more in support of the riding thing, especially because they didn't have to pay for any of it. So in a nutshell, I never did anything more than super low level local hunters and intercollegiate equitation. I showed a bombproof/sit and steer jumper in the itty bitty Level 0's and 1's at an A show one summer I was in college and had a BLAST. I figured I'd end up with a jumper, since I was known as a 7 jump wonder and it wouldn't matter if my distance sucked as long as we got over the jump. I spent a year after college working multiple jobs, doing a little hacking/taking a few lessons here and there. I then spent 2 years in Guatemala, where I got a fantastic nag that I rode to the rural areas outside of my town for work. Last summer, I got back from Guatemala in July and bought Bubbles in August. Not my smartest decision. I hadn't jumped in 2+ years at that point, was fat and out of shape, and had no business being on a mentally fried jumper. We kind of remained stagnant for about 6 months until January, when I moved him to a new barn/new trainer. We scared the ever loving daylights out of everyone when he tried to jump a series of trot poles in the first few weeks we were there, and was a fruit loop in general. Within 3 months, we were jumping around in the Low Adults at an AA show, my first ever. So I ended up in the jumpers because I couldn't (and let's be honest, probably still can't) find 8 jumps and I knew I didn't have the budget to get something attractive/remotely talented enough to do what I wanted to do (I figured the 3' Adults was somewhat realistic). And I was in no way ready for something on the greener and fancier side, yikes, no. My no-budget, mentally fried fruit loop has become super fun to ride and way more talented than I ever expected. I'm entertaining the idea of shooting for at least the High Adults if not the Low A/O's someday, depending on how ballsy I get. If I ever find the time, I really want to pursue foxhunting! |
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| MayaTy02 | May 2 2012, 06:42 AM Post #15 |
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Started riding when I was 9, had a best friend who was taking lessons and offered to take me. It was a local h/j farm with onsite horse shows etc. That was all I knew in Connecticut. When I got more serious, I did end up showing locally in the children's hunters and equitation, though I did join pony club for a year and dabbled in horse trials, hunting, and dressage lessons. Was very cool to be exposed to the different disciplines, but none were a fit for me or my horse other than the world of hunters/eq. I was not a big fan of hunters though because the courses were SO boring! I mean outside, diagonal, outside, diagonal??? SNOOOZE and I was not nearly brave enough to do jumpers (that was for CRAZY people )... so naturally ended up focusing more on equitation. I loved the challeging courses, the need to be extremely precise and controlled every step around the course. I suppose I'm a hunter person technically, but really my love was in the equitation rings.
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So, you know more about my background but....I grew up riding english and I was fortunate to get a broad depth of experience especially in Europe. When I landed back stateside, I was fortunate that my junior trainer pushed us to dabble in everything. I loved it all, but especially jumping! I think I do the hunters now because I have a hunter...but the next one I get, I want to get an OTTB and do the jumpers. I like that it is an equal playing field - you either ride well and have the talent or you don't. I like that there isn't a political element, I like that the horse isn't penalized for personality. I do love the tradition of the hunters, but like BBGTB said, I don't like the lengths some go to get the "quiet" that is needed. Oh, and I don't have the pocketbook to show hunters like I really want to either




and I was not nearly brave enough to do jumpers (that was for CRAZY people
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