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| anyone used a Stubben EZ control bit before?; updated with video demonstration ;) | |
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| MayaTy02 | Apr 29 2012, 02:01 PM Post #1 |
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Trainer picked one up at Rolex for our very strong medium pony, who currently goes in a slow twist copper dr. bristol full cheek. The old bit is just not enough for a kid to control this pony. Curious as to anyone's results with this Stubben EZ Control dee ring bit... or any of their EZ control bits. Thanks |
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| MayaTy02 | Apr 30 2012, 05:05 PM Post #2 |
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guess not but if you are interested in it, we tried it today and do think it was effective. Needs an educated hand because of the action of the bit, but seemed to give us some more breaks/ratability today.
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| vxf111 | Apr 30 2012, 07:26 PM Post #3 |
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How does it differ from the JPC regular dee with the curved sides? I am looking at this online and from the photos can't figure out what's different about the bit's action?! |
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| MayaTy02 | Apr 30 2012, 07:32 PM Post #4 |
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don't know how that type of bit works but it does not fold like a regular snaffle. It's loose when hanging loose, but not as loose as a snaffle and when you pull on the rein, the action is like a mullen mouth, where it locks into place, then releases as the rein is released. Puts pressure across the tongue rather than the sides of the mouth? Does that help at all? |
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| vxf111 | Apr 30 2012, 07:37 PM Post #5 |
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That helps. I saw their little blurb about how its supposed to work... I just can't figure out mechanically how?! |
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| MayaTy02 | Apr 30 2012, 07:47 PM Post #6 |
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it's magic but seriously it was easy to see the pony respond by the end of the lesson by being much softer, understanding that he has to stop pulling so the pressure will be released. Pretty cool.
Edited by MayaTy02, Apr 30 2012, 07:48 PM.
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| vxf111 | May 1 2012, 05:56 AM Post #7 |
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I think I want to try one of these, but for $80 I'd like to see one in person so I can figure out how they work. Maybe a Dover trip this weekend... |
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| MayaTy02 | May 1 2012, 06:00 AM Post #8 |
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If you want me to get you more pics of it in different views or anything let me know. When you hold it in your hand, the first thing you notice is that it doesn't collapse like a regular snaffle, but it straightens and locks into position when you pull on the sides, when you release it collapses a little bit, but again not like a regular snaffle. Found this more detailed description online: Benefits of an EZ Control D-Ring Bit: Optimal adaptation through the unique bit-design - flexibility on the sides Enhanced effect with minimum pressure on the reins Allows gentle and sensitive aids Enables easier communication between horse and rider Top-class and professional show jumpers inspired us in the development of the EZ-CONTROL-BIT. Their horses (show jumpers) often have a very strong impulsion, making it difficult at times for the rider to bring the horse back before each jump. When using too severe bits however, horses become too cautious, resulting in a lack of speed and power in the jumping course. With the EZ-CONTROL-BIT we have developed a bit which is very effective and has a strong action on demand, yet positioned soft and comfortable in the horse’s mouth. The effect of the bit comes into action gently. When the horse accepts the bit, it lies smoothly between tongue and lower jaw. Only in moments of disobedience, when the horse resists the riders aid, the leverage action of the bit is initiated. As soon as the horse backs down and accepts the riders aid, the bit acts flexible and soft on the horse’s tongue and bars. This particular effect of the EZ-CONTROL-BIT has proved its worth also in the training of young horses. Horse trainers speak of a self-learning-aspect, because many horses begin to correct themselves as soon as the leverage action is initiated. The problem when horses become too strong in the riders hands and run away from the riders aid exists quite often, not only when show jumping. We have also had very good results in tests with children, who sometimes did not have enough strength to control their ponies when they were too strong or disobedient. With the EZ-CONTROL-BIT riders have a more effective impact on the horse, requiring less pressure on the reins. Edited by MayaTy02, May 1 2012, 06:04 AM.
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| hijumpin1 | May 2 2012, 10:56 AM Post #9 |
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Hmm, sounds interesting. Wonder if it would help my horse? I tried a "ported" full cheek on him at my last show--and it royally pissed him off. Every time I touched his face he flipped his head up. Not a pretty round... He's not a naughty horse, he just has a huge step and builds. I end up with a 15ft stride, and I pull back on the reins, he just keeps chugging away. Oy. I'm 5'3", LOL so off he goes. |
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| vxf111 | May 2 2012, 02:28 PM Post #10 |
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This is kind of my thought too. I'm not the strongest rider and have a real hard time getting my upper body BACK between the fences so that I can do stuff like say "oh shit horsey, this line is a 6, please DON'T do it in 4" and I am wondering if this will just help me get a bit more control. I need to work on me, clearly, but in the meantime... I just don't wanna plunk down the $75 for the D ring version without seeing how it works first! |
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| MayaTy02 | May 2 2012, 03:37 PM Post #11 |
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rode him again in it today, and it is definitely effective. We are definitely liking this bit on this pony, who has the exact same problem you all describe. He has an enormous stride and builds... I will see if one of my videos shows her ability to half halt and get him back... ETA: ok this is a video from today, day 2 with this bit. We have the dee ring BTW. not a good quality video at all, but this is a pony with a motor, who builds and builds. You can see between jumps 1 and 2, how she goes to half halt him and he actually breaks into a trot. That is amazing for this pony. First video: this is him in the full cheek copper dr. bristol last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRbteKCsrR8 Second video: this is him today, day two of the EZ control: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-39KrDXD3Q and because we finally did the line nicely the last: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auYEftLDbPM Edited by MayaTy02, May 2 2012, 04:05 PM.
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| bellaluna | May 3 2012, 10:37 AM Post #12 |
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Thanks for posting about this with follow up MayaTy. How do you think this bit would compare to a Tom Thumb pelham for control? Luna is going pretty well in the Tom Thumb but when I put her in my Herm Sprenger D ring she is very hard to bring back/basically runs right through it. I'm wondering if this bit might be a good middle ground? |
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| MayaTy02 | May 3 2012, 11:15 AM Post #13 |
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I have not ridden in Pelhams much, they were always too much bit for my horses so hard for me to say. This is a very strong pony, but he has a pretty soft mouth and he's fairly responsive, he's just STRONG and she's 70 lbs wet so hard to stop him when he's rolling. I think it's worth a try. Definitely more bit than a plain dee ring, more bit that our slow twist dr. bristol...but doesn't piss him off. It's a very nice looking bit too, flatters the head.
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| vxf111 | May 12 2012, 01:39 PM Post #14 |
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I bought one, so we'll see... |
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| MayaTy02 | May 13 2012, 08:04 PM Post #15 |
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hope it works! We ended up switching our pony to a slow twist king dee when he started rooting really badly with Maya but now we use the EZ control bit on trainers kid's pony and she loves it on him, gives her much needed brakes.
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but if you are interested in it, we tried it today and do think it was effective. Needs an educated hand because of the action of the bit, but seemed to give us some more breaks/ratability today.
but seriously it was easy to see the pony respond by the end of the lesson by being much softer, understanding that he has to stop pulling so the pressure will be released. Pretty cool.
hope it works! We ended up switching our pony to a slow twist king dee when he started rooting really badly with Maya but now we use the EZ control bit on trainers kid's pony and she loves it on him, gives her much needed brakes.

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