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Osama Bin Laden is DEAD.; Best day ever.
Topic Started: May 1 2011, 08:41 PM (2,876 Views)
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May 2 2011, 12:39 PM
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May 2 2011, 12:28 PM
Oh c'mon guys.. Osama.. Obama.. one letter difference. Which to me, is probably the reason the media is now referring to him as Usama.

For the record, I'm not the one who said that first, a group of friends and I were talking and one noticed that the spelling had changed.
seriously? seriously? You find this funny? I find the Daily Show Funny. I find Dumb and Dumber funny. I even found "Old School" funny.

and the "I'm not the one who said it first"--that goes over my head too.

Let's get back to talking about ponies here before my head spins off.

Yup, I think it's funny that the media has all of the sudden changed the spelling. Call me weird, doesn't bother me.

LOL, see this is why I never get involved in political talk.
Where in the media has the spelling been changed? On the CNN home page, Washington Post, & Wall Street Journal it's still Osama and (lest I be accused of only quoting the "liberal" media) on Fox News it's listed only as bin Laden. I'm sorry - I just don't see this particular event as an excuse for lowering the level of political discourse to something so base as the translation of a name in an effort to discredit an administration you disagree with. A name is just a name, and the ideology of hate doesn't die with an individual, regardless of how you spell it.

FWIW, I would choose education, understanding, and compassion over violence every.single.time.
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May 2 2011, 12:09 PM
While I do find it in poor taste as well as inflammatory to be celebrating in the streets over his death, I am relieved that he's gone. He was pure evil.

I don't want to make waves here but I find it interesting that some of the posters who seem to be the most disgusted by it are not Americans. That man spearheaded something that cut our country to the core and I just don't know if you can fully understand how we all felt on 9/11 if you aren't an american.

I personally don't feel bad being happy as hell that we took him out, and am proud it was a seal team from good old VA that did it! Guess he got his virgin-ians in the end after all!
I had an interesting email exchange this morning with the WIDOWER of my best friend. She lost her life when the towers fell. She and I had been friends from the time we were in college and stayed close, visiting, sharing joy and grief throughout our lives. I asked him how he felt today and he said he felt odd. He felt some small measure of relief that the man who was behind the death of his wife was now gone, but he feels concerned for what comes next. He said this is just the end of one chapter of this war on terror and that as long as there are divisions based on ideology and theology, these wars will never end. He fears the next chapter of this war.

He grieves today not just for a wife and mother taken from him, but for a future free of tyranny for his children that will most likely never happen. He worries now, today, more than ever about his planned business trips in the future. He worries about our other mutual friends and family who are soliders -- Canadian and American -- who are fighting and dying for ALL of us regardless of borders. He knows that if Osama was left alive, it would be worse had he been captured.

He went on to say that if his fellow countrymen want to go ahead and celebrate in the streets, chant, burn images of Osama or Usama or whatever you want to call him to go ahead and do so, but wants everyone to remember that we are being watched and will be feeding into exactly the stereo type that we are being accused of and makes us no better than those who caused the tragedy on Sept. 11 then celebrated in the streets.

And while I am not American, I lost my best friend that day. I lost colleagues that day. And I have lost cousins and friends fighting in Afganistan. We ALL felt this pain. We ALL have suffered. Together, not apart.
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May 2 2011, 12:55 PM
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May 2 2011, 12:39 PM
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May 2 2011, 12:37 PM
kady05
May 2 2011, 12:28 PM
Oh c'mon guys.. Osama.. Obama.. one letter difference. Which to me, is probably the reason the media is now referring to him as Usama.

For the record, I'm not the one who said that first, a group of friends and I were talking and one noticed that the spelling had changed.
seriously? seriously? You find this funny? I find the Daily Show Funny. I find Dumb and Dumber funny. I even found "Old School" funny.

and the "I'm not the one who said it first"--that goes over my head too.

Let's get back to talking about ponies here before my head spins off.

Yup, I think it's funny that the media has all of the sudden changed the spelling. Call me weird, doesn't bother me.

LOL, see this is why I never get involved in political talk.
Where in the media has the spelling been changed? On the CNN home page, Washington Post, & Wall Street Journal it's still Osama and (lest I be accused of only quoting the "liberal" media) on Fox News it's listed only as bin Laden. I'm sorry - I just don't see this particular event as an excuse for lowering the level of political discourse to something so base as the translation of a name in an effort to discredit an administration you disagree with. A name is just a name, and the ideology of hate doesn't die with an individual, regardless of how you spell it.

FWIW, I would choose education, understanding, and compassion over violence every.single.time.
Yeah, what she said.

'Cause I'm still missing the funny.
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Great post, MommaDiva :) For the most part, I feel that the Canadian/American border is nothing more than a line drawn on a map, but I know many do not feel this way.
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It seems those who lost loved ones all seem to have the same mixed emotions! Just like we all do! It is OK to feel glad, sad and uneasy. No politics or nationalities in these emotions. Just human nature!
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I didn't mean to say that you Canadians did NOT understand, just that I wondered if you could have experienced the same range of emotions that we Americans did that day. It sounds like you did, which is interesting to me.

I think a lot of this discussion boils down to whether or not one is ok with the concept of war in general. I, for one, think it is a necessary evil, but I know we all have our own ideologies and some will always be against any war. To each his own. Bowing out of this discussion now and posting on more light-hearted topics!!! :)
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May 2 2011, 01:43 PM
I didn't mean to say that you Canadians did NOT understand, just that I wondered if you could have experienced the same range of emotions that we Americans did that day.
I don't feel any different emotions when I see a terrorist attack in America versus anywhere else in the world - just like I don't feel any different when I see white versus brown people being killed. Human suffering is the same all over the world.
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I am glad Osama bin Laden is no longer a player. I can't bring myself to celebrate his death though. As someone (JTM?) said earlier, there are no winners in war; it is a necessary evil and is part of the price we pay to live the way we choose to live. Violence tends to beget more violence. Al Qaeda isn't dead because we removed its figurehead. There are plenty of others who'd love to take his place. I don't think acts of terrorism by religious extremists are going to disappear anytime soon; if al Qaeda fades in prominence, another group will take its place.

I had thought that finding him and capturing/killing him would feel more like an end to something, but it doesn't feel to me that way at all now that it's happened. If anything, I am now more worried. At least in some ways, bin Laden and al Qaeda were a bit of a known quantity. If the decline of al Qaeda creates a void to be filled, what nameless group will be the one to fill it, and what will they do to make their mark? :no:

As far as the name thing goes? Please do find, with screen shots, one legitimate news outlet that's consistently changed its styling of Osama bin Laden's name following his death. None of the Associated Press outlets should have; the stylebook still has the following entry for Osama bin Laden, which I believe was added to the AP Stylebook shortly after Sept. 11, 2001:
Osama bin Laden Use bin Laden on second reference, an exception to the general rule on Arabic names. It is the family preference for the last name.



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I think its really telling how even one's reactions to this event are being drawn along political lines. I am an Obama supporter but I am quite sure I would have had the same reaction I had last night if GW had been successful in his mission for bin Laden. So it's really odd to me that people are politicizing this. I just don't understand.

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May 2 2011, 12:39 PM
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May 2 2011, 12:37 PM
kady05
May 2 2011, 12:28 PM
Oh c'mon guys.. Osama.. Obama.. one letter difference. Which to me, is probably the reason the media is now referring to him as Usama.

For the record, I'm not the one who said that first, a group of friends and I were talking and one noticed that the spelling had changed.
seriously? seriously? You find this funny? I find the Daily Show Funny. I find Dumb and Dumber funny. I even found "Old School" funny.

and the "I'm not the one who said it first"--that goes over my head too.

Let's get back to talking about ponies here before my head spins off.

Yup, I think it's funny that the media has all of the sudden changed the spelling. Call me weird, doesn't bother me.

Oh - I'm not sure why the second comment went over your head.. it's pretty cut & dry.

LOL, see this is why I never get involved in political talk.
The only place I have seen the spelling "Usama" consistently over the past ten years has been FOX news... still haven't seen it spelled that way on any of the other venues... I don't care which is more or less correct... he is DEAD and that is all that matters.

I did see something floating in around fb... and admit to posting it on my wall...

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Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found OBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!! God Bless our soldiers and their families for their sacrifices they make to keep us safe!!


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It just defies words sometimes.
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I was thoroughly disgusted to hear he'd apparently used one of his wives as a shield for his sorry a$$. There really are no words for that. :censored:

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May 2 2011, 04:52 PM
It just defies words sometimes.
Boggles is more like it!
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Onelane-I guess that's the down side to being the junior wife, and being the one he takes to the hiding place. It didn't stop the brave SEAL (or CIA op) who took Bin Laden out with a double tap. I think the bad guys mistake the American trying to be fair with weakness.

And on the Canadian views on here-I personally will never forget the fact that Canadians put aside their own shock and grief on 9/11, and took in thousands of displaced travellers who had to land when their planes couldn't come back in U.S. airspace. There are no words to thank all of the Canadians, and the many other countries who stood with us in that horrible time. And there is no way to thank the Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen (and women too) who have fought along with us at a terrible cost in lives and injuries since then.

I'm just glad Bin Ladin is dead, and hopefully spinning on the eternal rotisserie in hell he has so richly earned. Let's hope his second-in-command is soon joining him there.
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May 2 2011, 05:34 PM
Onelane-I guess that's the down side to being the junior wife, and being the one he takes to the hiding place. It didn't stop the brave SEAL (or CIA op) who took Bin Laden out with a double tap. I think the bad guys mistake the American trying to be fair with weakness.

And on the Canadian views on here-I personally will never forget the fact that Canadians put aside their own shock and grief on 9/11, and took in thousands of displaced travellers who had to land when their planes couldn't come back in U.S. airspace. There are no words to thank all of the Canadians, and the many other countries who stood with us in that horrible time. And there is no way to thank the Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen (and women too) who have fought along with us at a terrible cost in lives and injuries since then.

I'm just glad Bin Ladin is dead, and hopefully spinning on the eternal rotisserie in hell he has so richly earned. Let's hope his second-in-command is soon joining him there.
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