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Osama Bin Laden is DEAD.; Best day ever.
Topic Started: May 1 2011, 08:41 PM (2,879 Views)
MayaTy02
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I agree with what you say JTM, however I think he'd just become a figure head over the recent years, not really THE guy running things anymore, and I do think the govt is going to step up security efforts looking for a retaliation. But what it does say is, "you can't F with the US"...and sadly it needed to be said. I'm just glad that there was closure to that aspect so now we can focus our efforts on the rest of the leadership in hopes to break the organization down some more...or at least keep them on the run so they can't plan anything so well organized as 9/11.
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I am glad the search is over. Not truly knowing what all went on, I suppose death was the only way. He would have been a martyr any other way. I still wonder why it took so long. I also have issues with he is buried at sea.... makes "me" wonder if it was really him? Pardon my skepticism, I worry about the after effects. OBL was powerful, more than we really want to acknowledge. I did read a woman died, some man used her as a human shield. Bunch of cowards all of them, spouting their rhetoric from the safety of a hidden bunker.

I truly hope this is the 'end' of al Qaeda.

OBL you will not be missed by me that is for sure.

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May 2 2011, 04:44 AM
I feel like there are many other people out there who are just as crazy, only the focus has been on OBL for so many years. What happens now? I hope no one lets their guard down - I am sure he has many people waiting to take his place.

I know he is an awful person but there are many, many people who believe in what he has/had to say (brainwashed, perhaps, but still). It makes me sad to think that if someone were to shoot and kill Obama, there would be people in other countries - and even in your very own - crying tears of joy. What kind of world do we live in?

My introspective thoughts for the...month. I am happy he is gone, finally, but I don't think I could ever jump for joy at the death of another person. Maybe that's just me :( Everyone who dies is someone's father/mother, brother/sister or dad/mom.
I totally agree with you JTM. I'm all about justice for lives lost, but can't see my way to celebrating death. Glad to know that OBL is no longer a threat, and hoping it doesn't have a galvanizing effect on the other loonies standing in line to take his place.
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I am not joyful! OBL had a long legacy of terrorism and murder. He deserved to be punished and we all knew he would never be captured alive! So he swims with the fishes forever!
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OBL was not human, and to call him an animal would be an insult to animals... he was evil pure and simple... his family disowned him and the only thing that kept him going was his hatred of America and Americans... Good riddance to bad rubbish... I don't even have one little speck of compassion for this monster.
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Casey I'm sure they will have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's him, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. They will have to tread carefully for sure so as not to be seen as gruesome, but to get the word out.

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JumpTheMoon
May 2 2011, 04:44 AM
I feel like there are many other people out there who are just as crazy, only the focus has been on OBL for so many years. What happens now? I hope no one lets their guard down - I am sure he has many people waiting to take his place.

I know he is an awful person but there are many, many people who believe in what he has/had to say (brainwashed, perhaps, but still). It makes me sad to think that if someone were to shoot and kill Obama, there would be people in other countries - and even in your very own - crying tears of joy. What kind of world do we live in?

My introspective thoughts for the...month. I am happy he is gone, finally, but I don't think I could ever jump for joy at the death of another person. Maybe that's just me :( Everyone who dies is someone's father/mother, brother/sister or dad/mom.
I mostly agree with your sentiments JTM, except while I feel no need to celebrate I can fully and completely understand why some people do. As to what it means hopefully it means the organization will experience some disarray, which is typical when the leader/founder/visionary is taken out of the picture. Hoepfully it also means there have been big intelligence discoveries in general that can be used to help dismantle this organization further.

As far as what kind of world do we live in now? Well, we live in a world where thousands and thousands of people cheered and danced in the streets after 9/11, celebrating the deaths, and lamenting the fact that there weren't more. We live in a world largely without borders. Despite every country's immigration policies for the most part anyone can get into any country, either legally or illegally. We live in a world where extremists have taken a religion and crafted their own extremely violent version of it, and attracted staggering numbers of followers to it. We live in a world linked by cell phones, the internet, airplanes and other means of technology that can be used for good or for bad. We live in a world where the 9/11 survivors and those left behind are glad that the mastermind behind that tragic day is FINALLY gone permanently, despite the lack of cooperation from certain countries in helping us to find him or actively helping to hide him - and pleading "ignorance." Is the whole threat gone, of course not, but the driving force behind that day is gone. And although I feel no need to celebrate by dancing in the street and crying tears of joy I for one am not sad one little bit that the SOB is dead.
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May 2 2011, 05:27 AM
JumpTheMoon
May 2 2011, 04:44 AM
I feel like there are many other people out there who are just as crazy, only the focus has been on OBL for so many years. What happens now? I hope no one lets their guard down - I am sure he has many people waiting to take his place.

I know he is an awful person but there are many, many people who believe in what he has/had to say (brainwashed, perhaps, but still). It makes me sad to think that if someone were to shoot and kill Obama, there would be people in other countries - and even in your very own - crying tears of joy. What kind of world do we live in?

My introspective thoughts for the...month. I am happy he is gone, finally, but I don't think I could ever jump for joy at the death of another person. Maybe that's just me :( Everyone who dies is someone's father/mother, brother/sister or dad/mom.
I totally agree with you JTM. I'm all about justice for lives lost, but can't see my way to celebrating death. Glad to know that OBL is no longer a threat, and hoping it doesn't have a galvanizing effect on the other loonies standing in line to take his place.
Agreed - I worry that the media showing video of Americans cheering in the streets will piss other fanatics off. Imagine how incensed Americans would be if we saw foreigners having parties in the streets after killing one of our leaders. :no:

I don't think normal people will regret the loss of Bin Laden but there are enough crazies out there that we don't need to fan the flames.

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I will celebrate his death.

Let me splain please. I am sure the day he was born both of his parents looked down at his baby face and smiled thinking what new parents think. I am sure they had wonderful thoughts of what he would become..Dr, lawyer, humanitarian et al. That day he was pure human. When he died last night he was about as far from being human as one can get. Perhaps one can trace when he became less than human to shortly before his family disowned him. He was a rabid thing that those around him in this case the world is better off with out his breathing. If sharks chose what they do and do not eat they would leave his body alone but I doubt they think lke that. He is fish food.

I feel that he probably named his secessor long before he died and that person was nowhere near him for all we know that person is in a sleeper cell right here in the US. think of the irony of that. Who ever it is where ever he is he has already taken charge and already anounced that revenge will occure. Pakastan then in the US with obama in their sites.

The bad thing about his death is that he is now a martyer(sp) to his people and those who think as he did.

Apparntly he was asked to surrender but he chose not to. So all the beter for the world. I would like to believe that the people who killed him will recieve awards leave etc.


I celebrate his death for he will never ever be able to orgnize another attack and I hope in the future his secesor will meet the same fate until the whole orgization is gone even if it takes another 2 or 3 decades.
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Now is neither a time to criticize Bush nor diminish Obama's accomplish­ment. It is time for sober congratula­tions to all those who accomplish­ed this mission: "Sober" because we should never revel in killing and Al Qaeda may seek revenge; "congratul­ations" because it had to be done.
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JumpTheMoon
May 2 2011, 04:44 AM
I feel like there are many other people out there who are just as crazy, only the focus has been on OBL for so many years. What happens now? I hope no one lets their guard down - I am sure he has many people waiting to take his place.

I know he is an awful person but there are many, many people who believe in what he has/had to say (brainwashed, perhaps, but still). It makes me sad to think that if someone were to shoot and kill Obama, there would be people in other countries - and even in your very own - crying tears of joy. What kind of world do we live in?

My introspective thoughts for the...month. I am happy he is gone, finally, but I don't think I could ever jump for joy at the death of another person. Maybe that's just me :( Everyone who dies is someone's father/mother, brother/sister or dad/mom.
This.

JTM you are wise. I could never celbrate the taking of another persons life. Why was he not camputed live?

THAT would have been something.

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Yes, MAR I believe that to be true.

Someone is mourning her son, her husband, her childs father.
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May 2 2011, 05:27 AM
JumpTheMoon
May 2 2011, 04:44 AM
I feel like there are many other people out there who are just as crazy, only the focus has been on OBL for so many years. What happens now? I hope no one lets their guard down - I am sure he has many people waiting to take his place.

I know he is an awful person but there are many, many people who believe in what he has/had to say (brainwashed, perhaps, but still). It makes me sad to think that if someone were to shoot and kill Obama, there would be people in other countries - and even in your very own - crying tears of joy. What kind of world do we live in?

My introspective thoughts for the...month. I am happy he is gone, finally, but I don't think I could ever jump for joy at the death of another person. Maybe that's just me :( Everyone who dies is someone's father/mother, brother/sister or dad/mom.
I totally agree with you JTM. I'm all about justice for lives lost, but can't see my way to celebrating death. Glad to know that OBL is no longer a threat, and hoping it doesn't have a galvanizing effect on the other loonies standing in line to take his place.
Agree with you both. And now begins the next chapter...in every end there is a beginning. I've grateful that the chapter is over, but we must handle it with dignity and not with baser reactions.

When I went over to Pakistan in 2003 with my then-boyfriend, I met so many wonderful people--it was amazing to be in that part of the world at such a crucial time in history and in the pursuit of Bin Laden many civilians have lost their lives. Many Mulims who aren't terrorists have faced prejudice. I don't think I can cheer; mostly I'm just trying to be hopeful that the next chapter, the next leader to come to power, won't be as bad as the last.

I have voted for many republicans in my day, but I also am a staunch Obama fan. Today is the day to be an American and not make it about politics. I'm tired of the politicalization of everything.

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I believe the disposal at sea was to prevent any possible development of a martyr's grave.

I would also like to remind those who worry about hate for America that when 911
happened, Americans who were abroad were approached by native strangers to offer
condolences. The most touching memory I have is of some unknown Canadian, a
neighbor of we Americans, who came to the border to place flowers at the foot of
the American flag flying there.
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MAR
May 2 2011, 05:52 AM
Now is neither a time to criticize Bush nor diminish Obama's accomplish­ment. It is time for sober congratula­tions to all those who accomplish­ed this mission: "Sober" because we should never revel in killing and Al Qaeda may seek revenge; "congratul­ations" because it had to be done.
This. I can never feel like cheering for another person's death. And I do fear that someone else will just step up and take his place, he is a martyr to them now. On the other hand, I never thought he would just surrender. This had to be done, for the symbolism if nothing else. There is evil and hate in this world, and no matter how much I don't like that reality, we need to do what must be done to protect ourselves.
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And as far as the burial at sea so quickly, I heard that it was done in respect for Islamic law, which requires a burial within 24 hours. That's just what I "heard," but it makes sense.
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