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The Royal Wedding
Topic Started: Apr 23 2011, 09:51 AM (2,084 Views)
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Casey1
Apr 26 2011, 04:50 AM
Ok I have a question on something I read this week. I thought, when Charles married Camilla, there was a condition that when Charles becomes King, Camilla can never be Queen. Am I imagining things? The article I read said, that 'when Camilla becomes Queen', it was an American article so I don't know they had their facts straight. There was a lot of conditions about Charles marrying Camilla.

The answer to your question seems to be "Maybe." She will at least be known as "Queen Consort."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8147324/Duchess-could-become-Queen-Camilla-says-Charles.html
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Apr 26 2011, 04:50 AM
I want to watch it. Does anyone know if it will be live screened over the internet? I think I will be at work, I remember Diana's wedding being during the day. I would love to have it in the corner of my computer as I work.
I heard something on the radio yesterday about YouTube running live feed of the event, as well as a live chat. I would think that the major news outlets like CNN would also have live online coverage of it. The wedding itself is super early in the morning here in the US so it would likely be over by time you are at work...I think...
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NBC is starting their live coverage of the wedding at 4 AM.
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We are at Lexington to show but plan on tea, scones, and mimosas to watch the wedding. We rented a house so I might try to make scones myself. (which really means I'll preheat the oven and then decide against it and eat one from the bakery)
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I'll probably watch it after the fact as I'm not really one for all the hoopla. I can't even image the pressure that Kate must be feeling right now. :o I think she is SO naturally beautiful and can't wait to see her dress. I hope it's strapless! She is going to make a wonderful princess.

I really don't understand how the Royal family works. Why is there no King right now?

William is handsome but Harry is waaaaaaaaay hotter, ginger hair and all!

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I'll be sitting on a horse while it's happening (why must schooling happen so EARLY?), but I'm planning on taking my laptop over to the show so I can watch stuff after I ride.

I believe BBC is doing a live feed of some kind, or at least that's what my mom told me when I was fussing about not getting to go sit at the bar with my friends that morning. ;)
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JumpTheMoon
Apr 26 2011, 06:19 AM
I really don't understand how the Royal family works. Why is there no King right now?



I don't completely understand, but a man can not marry into the role of King. It is considered 'higher' than Queen. So Queen Elizabeth's husband is not King. However the wife of a King obviously can be crowned Queen and she is secondary to the King. Or something like that....

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Apr 26 2011, 06:37 AM
JumpTheMoon
Apr 26 2011, 06:19 AM
I really don't understand how the Royal family works. Why is there no King right now?



I don't completely understand, but a man can not marry into the role of King. It is considered 'higher' than Queen. So Queen Elizabeth's husband is not King. However the wife of a King obviously can be crowned Queen and she is secondary to the King. Or something like that....

It is all about who has power to rule.

Queen Elizabeth is Queen because her father was the King. Her father, George VI, became King in 1936. When he died in 1952, Elizabeth became Head of the Commonwealth and the queen of seven independent Commonwealth countries: the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Pakistan, and Ceylon (obviously some of those countries have gained their independence).

She married Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, who was born Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, in 1947. On his marriage, he was granted the style of His Royal Highness and the title of Duke of Edinburgh by his father-in-law, King George VI. Philip left active service in the British Navy when Elizabeth became Queen in 1952. She then made him a Prince of the United Kingdom in 1957. As consort to the Queen, Philip supports her in her duties as Sovereign, accompanying her to ceremonies such as the State Opening of Parliament in various countries, state dinners, and tours abroad, but has no ruling abilities himself.

As Consort, he has no right to the throne. The throne is passed down by lineage, therefore, only Queen Elizabeth II's sons/daughters may inherit. Therefore, when she dies, her son, crown Prince Charles (the eldest) will assume the throne, with Camilla most likely as his Queen Consort (not Queen). When he dies, Prince William will be King, and following him, his eldest son will be King, or if there are no sons, his eldest daughter will be Queen.

As an aside, when William marries Kate, she will NOT technically be "Princess Catherine of England." Rather, she will be "Catherine, a Princess of England." That is a totally different title, but I am sure everyone is going to call her Princess Kate or Princess Catherine anyway. However, when Charles is King and William is the crown Prince and Prince of Wales, then she will be Princess of Wales, and Queen when he becomes King.

If something would happen to Charles and William should become King, then something happens to William when his heir is still young, then a "Regent" would be appointed to rule. A prince regent is a prince who rules a monarchy as Regent instead of a Monarch due to the Sovereign's incapacity (minority or illness) or absence (remoteness, such as exile or long voyage, or simply no incumbent). Also, sometimes the consort of the King/Queen will step up and will temporarily do the duties of a Prince regent when the sovereign is unable to reign. Sometimes they are unofficially known as regents themselves.

The most well-known British regent was George IV, who from 1811 until his accession in 1820, served as Prince Regent during his father's (George III's) relapse into mental illness.


Oh, and re the Dress: all the news outlet commentators have pretty much said it will at least have short sleeves, but most likely long, due to the fact that this is a royal wedding, it is being held in Westminster Abbey (ultra formal), and the Queen just wouldn't approve bare shoulders/strapless. But of course, we'll see! ;)
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That is really interesting and makes a lot more sense now! Thanks SSR.
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Apr 26 2011, 07:18 AM
That is really interesting and makes a lot more sense now! Thanks SSR.
Glad to help. I was a history major, with a concentration in European History, and I taught Advanced Placement European History for several years, so I have the British monarchy pretty well understood. ;)
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Apr 26 2011, 06:19 AM
I'll probably watch it after the fact as I'm not really one for all the hoopla. I can't even image the pressure that Kate must be feeling right now. :o I think she is SO naturally beautiful and can't wait to see her dress. I hope it's strapless! She is going to make a wonderful princess.

I really don't understand how the Royal family works. Why is there no King right now?

William is handsome but Harry is waaaaaaaaay hotter, ginger hair and all!

Because they have a Queen...no male heir when he father died, leaving her next in line. She is just as "powerful". When she married, he was not of royal blood, she was, so he remains a Prince and she the Queen. If you think about it, it makes sense as marrying in would be the easiest way to become "King" or "Queen" by having your spouse murdered.

I also heard that Camilla will never be Queen.

It's all very complicated I think.
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jeez SSR do you have your law degree or your royalty degree? :teehee:

That was sooooo helpful!
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Thanks SSR.... however my marrying into King statement was not wrong :innocent: You just said it MUCH more correctly.

You know.... You can attend the Royal Wedding in true formal riding attire. Silk top hat, breeches, tall black dress boots, shadbelly or dark coat, white shirt, stock tie..... That is true ultra formal attire. No one would but you can.

Royalty and there is actually very little power left to the Queen anymore.

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Apr 26 2011, 08:17 AM
Thanks SSR.... however my marrying into King statement was not wrong :innocent: You just said it MUCH more correctly.
Ann, I didn't mean to imply you were wrong (if I did I am sorry). I was just fleshing out your answer a bit more. ;)
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Apr 26 2011, 08:23 AM
Casey1
Apr 26 2011, 08:17 AM
Thanks SSR.... however my marrying into King statement was not wrong :innocent: You just said it MUCH more correctly.
Ann, I didn't mean to imply you were wrong (if I did I am sorry). I was just fleshing out your answer a bit more. ;)
You didn't... I just stated I wasn't "wrong".... just not right either. LOL
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