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TOC, I need a hug...
Topic Started: Apr 1 2010, 01:00 PM (1,356 Views)
3Bays
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Do you guys find loved ones who pass present themselves in odd ways?

ABSOLUTELY...in several outstandingly NOT to be discounted ways that even others have witnessed who are not part of family/friends! I somehow have this happen to me quite a bit...I lost my first husband and son within 90 days of each other at the age of 20, and for years there were things that happened that truly told me they (especially my husband) were "still there". My friend who committed suicide that I mentioned above also made some "contacts". My grandmother PHONED me AFTER she died (verified by three others!). My father did SO many unusual things to me and for me the first two years after he died it became something my friends and family would ask about weekly! And, I myself have had a verified death and therefore a "near death experience" with some verified things by the docs and nurses and paramedics and my husband...

SO, although I never claim to have "all the answers" (actually I have FEW!), I DO have a very strong personal belief that SOMETHING of us must go on after what we here see as "death". What all that EXACTLY is or how it may mirror various religious teachings or if it is true for all souls I do not know. But, there IS something which happens and often those who have gone on CAN somehow touch our lives here.

I, actually, have found it quite comforting to have these "contacts", not frightened by them. My grief at my husband and son passing was made just bearable by those contacts, and the same for my grandmother (who basically raised me) and my Dad (whom I adored)...I still have dreams, feel them near, or have other experiences and know they are still "around" in some fashion. AT least this is how I am experiencing it all. I do not have such strong connections to ALL who die that I know or am connected personally to, but I've had enough happen that it seems unlikely that it all "just ends into blackness". It's my personal experience and belief that there IS peace there afterwards. To that I would say that indeed your friend has reviewed her life and "understands" at her soul level what happened and why in her life path, and she surely knows who TRULY cared for her in this life...therefore, she touches YOUR life. Treasure her! :cloud9:

Edited to add this: to me, especially when someone passes where there is pain (like a suicide can leave behind to the survivors, or as in my mother's case a lifetime of extremely negative behaviors) these "contacts" often can help to bring peace to US here who are still living. So, if your friend IS "contacting" you in any way (voices, dreams, other phenomena), it woudl seem to me that she is TRYING to touch YOU and bring YOU some peace about what she did. Just my opinion. ;)
Edited by 3Bays, Apr 2 2010, 08:48 AM.
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JMT,

Just checking to see how you are today? :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Errmmm, I hope I didn't offend you (or anyone here) by being so forthright in my opinion in answer to your question about your experience.
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3Bays I thought your post was really interesting, as your stories often are. Sad, yes.... but honest and sensitive. While I'm sure it has been some time, I am so sorry for the loss of your husband and son. I can only imagine how difficult that must have been. :(

JTM I hope you are doing ok. I too think that those who pass come to us, sometimes, in some form or another. It can be bittersweet and yet intensely comforting at the same time.

Sounds like she struggled with this for a very long time. I hope her friends and family is able to find some peace in the coming days.
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Appreciate it, Flashy. But I didn't say what I did because the stories are "sad" or for sympathy...I was trying to point out that indeed I didn't think her experience was odd in any way or she was nuts for expressing it in the terms she did about her friend as I've had numerous "experiences" in regards to those in my life who have "passed on". I guess I'm hoping I didn't offend anyone's spiritual or religious beliefs. These experiences I mentioned just happened to be mine and I was trying to explain that "unusual" experiences may not be quite so unusual after all.

Anyway, I think I'm digging a deeper hole so I'll stop there. ;)
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No I hear you. ;) It is hard to know what the universe holds and as I grow older I find myself more and more intrigued by the intangible things.
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Apr 2 2010, 05:49 AM
Do you guys find loved ones who pass present themselves in odd ways? It doesnt bring them back, but keeps them close to you in spirit?
My dad's been leaving pennies for us since he died. They turn up in the oddest places.

And he gave my mom pearl and diamond earrings for an anniversary one year, but one of the earrings went missing years ago. He found it and gave it back to my mom.
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MGP, that's what I mean! I completely understand what you're experiencing there. :hug: :rose:
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That is so cool MPG! How did he leave them? 3bays I was definitely not offended, I think these kind of stories are so neat and I hope she comes back to me many many more times :)

Today is a better day. Went to brunch with my dads side of the family for Easter and my birthday, and my 5 year old cousin/flower girl kept me laughing. Then my mom and I took the poodles for a long walk along the river. I've thought about her probably 100 times, but its all still very fresh in my mind.
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Oops, double post.
Edited by JumpTheMoon, Apr 2 2010, 04:39 PM.
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Thinking of you today. :hug:
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JTM, :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to you and to all the others who have suffered great losses. Depression is a nasty, unreasonable thing. Those who haven't been there really can't understand, even though they try so desperately to do so. I hope that eventually you will be able to remember the good and that your pain and confusion will subside. :rose:
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3bays I am right there with ya! I have had lots of weird unexplainable experiences after loved ones die and I relish the contact and the feeling that I know they are around me always. Keeps me sane at the most insane times...
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Many hugs for you!

Yes, I do believe loved ones contact us in many ways...... a scent, a stranger's mannerisms, a turn of phrase, a child's laughter. So many times I have felt my mother touch my cheek in that special way she had, my father's voice coming from a stranger, my dear friend Irene's laughter gurgling up from a stream. They never really leave us, open your hearts and you will feel their presence in many ways.
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