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Topic Started: Nov 3 2009, 10:57 AM (181 Views)
Indy	Nov 3 2009, 10:57 AM Post #1
You're BANNED! Posts: 3,040 Group: Members Member #326 Joined: January 10, 2007	. Edited by Indy, Nov 13 2009, 07:32 AM.



reppy	Nov 4 2009, 10:03 AM Post #2
Schooling Posts: 62 Group: Members Member #673 Joined: January 29, 2007	I fought with it for a year and a half with my mare. She had to stay on the doxy for 90 days because she had it so bad. One thing I found really helped was consistent chiro and masseuse visits. They really seemed to help manage her joint and muscle pain. Also, I tried the homeopathic drug, ledum (you can usually find it at any health food store... its for bee stings in humans). it worked wonders. I saw an immediate difference in her attitude and her on/off lameness disappeared. If you google it you can find tons of information. I highly suggest looking into it.



MissBri	Nov 4 2009, 05:59 PM Post #3
Cead Mile Failte ! ! SLAINTE! Posts: 4,007 Group: Members Member #973 Joined: April 20, 2007	I'll ask around here - Lyme is very prevalent around here and I know some of my friend's horses have had a bout or two. May take a week to get some info though. Edited by MissBri, Nov 4 2009, 05:59 PM.



Indy	Nov 5 2009, 07:28 AM Post #4
You're BANNED! Posts: 3,040 Group: Members Member #326 Joined: January 10, 2007	. Edited by Indy, Nov 13 2009, 07:32 AM.



reppy	Nov 6 2009, 10:32 AM Post #5
Schooling Posts: 62 Group: Members Member #673 Joined: January 29, 2007	I did it after she had been treated for 90 days. But, my trainer gave it to a horse while it was on doxy and saw similar results. My chiropractor was the one who recommended it and said it wont interact with the doxy because it is homeopathic.



nurse-betty@nycap.rr.com	Nov 9 2009, 06:11 PM Post #6
Weanling Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #4,883 Joined: November 9, 2009	Call your vet to get I.V. antibiotic to speed up treatment or consult another vet. Since your horse is in pain he will loss weight. your vet Should suggest putting him on bute until the treatment is finished a blood test will confirm the presence of the spirokete that is causing the problem. Furthermore when you find a tick use tick pullers to remove all parts of the tick, check daily over entire body including along the neck and chest. A good reference is the CDC(Center's for Disease Control) just google it. Be warned that when having a blood test done their is a chance of a false positive and may have to be repeated. Lyme can attack everything from heart to joints and in some cases the problem can persist long after the treatment is finished because of the damaged area's involved. Do your home work, and keep asking questions. If it can happen to people it is most certainly can happen to your horse. In this case Homeopathics don't work on joint damage caused by this vector driven ecto-parasite. Your vet will also warn you about long term use of bute and its complications which can be managed through how you feed your horse to reduce these complications (Take with Food) or space it out. It can be done. Dexamethazone in high enough doses will cause founder. Banamine is meant for a different kind of pain like visceral pain when your horse has colic. Take a pharmacology class if your in college you will learn a lot. Anyway I my self have been bitten three times and its not fun. My horse Scarlett has at least three that I remove each afternoon until the first snow. If your horse is on pasture mow it at least once a week to control the length of grass. Ticks don't jump they wait to be carried off when an animal walks through and brushes up against the tall grass or bushes. Know the life cycle of ticks that is your best prevention against future problems. Most importantly you and The owner should manage your horses health care, Not the trainer. They are their to make money by teaching your horse how to work on what your goal is, that is their job and lively hood. The Only Qualified person The veterinarian On Call who spent eight years in college and vet school is their to guide you along the way The treatment plan that will benefit his health. Your are also entitled to a second and third Qualified opinions. Edited by nurse-betty@nycap.rr.com, Nov 12 2009, 02:13 PM.



amandaw	Nov 9 2009, 09:18 PM Post #7
We're on a bridge, Chaaaaaaaaarlie! Posts: 161 Group: Members Member #185 Joined: January 7, 2007	I am in CT and all of my horses have had Lyme. It becomes standard operating procedure to test and treat every horse that comes through the barn (save those coming from further away, although my mare from Argentina by way of Maryland had Lyme). 4 of my 5 horses have been treated for Lyme in the past few months. I haven't done the Oxytet but my horses usually get 50 Doxy pills twice a day for either 30 or 36 days depending on the severity of their symptoms, their titer, or change in their titer or behavior. One of my geldings was treated last month and I found deer ticks on him during his treatment so the vet told me to treat him for an additional 10 days. Mine seem to get treated yearly - I notice a change in: attitude, willingness to work, sensitivity (particularly girthiness), and seemingly rotating lameness. Once treatment begins, I usually see a difference by the 5th or 6th day. My horses are only lightly worked while being treated due to the arthritic aspects of Lyme disease. Full functionality has returned for all of mine with no ill effects or permanent changes. I have seen horses that have gone untreated have permanent issues due to the Lyme. We normally just have an ELISA test run but I understand that a Western blot is more telling. I have had horses with low titers (with the ELISA) be completely crippled by Lyme prior to treatment. I haven't yet figured out the exact correlation between the titer level and infection. Good luck! Lyme is pervasive in my area but it is certainly manageable.



nurse-betty@nycap.rr.com	Nov 12 2009, 01:29 PM Post #8
Weanling Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #4,883 Joined: November 9, 2009	I'm glad and thank God That some body is paying attention to this subject. I should have posted this one first. After Reading the first couple of posts on LYME It gave the impression that there was no sense of urgent attention to the matter at hand. Even after the vet showed. Joint pain hurts! A forced march is not a good idea. Further more seeking advise from an unqualified person(Chiropractor) recommending the use of homeopathic substance on the advise of that same unqualified person left me with the feeling that their not that concerned about the suffering of the animal in question. (which is why I left info in my previous post.) After a weekend which was stated in the previous post's. The only qualified person who should have been treating the horse is the Vet with the owner present . Obviously more tests were needed. I'm sorry to sound critical, But I have over 25yrs experience in Nursing horses back to good health from neglect and mistreatment. I hope this person with a growing level of maturity has learned a hard lesson. Edited by nurse-betty@nycap.rr.com, Nov 12 2009, 02:28 PM.



Indy	Nov 12 2009, 02:22 PM Post #9
You're BANNED! Posts: 3,040 Group: Members Member #326 Joined: January 10, 2007	Thanks for your concern Betty. I'm sorry to hear you don't think I care about my horse. Believe me, I do. I'll end it here.



tarragon	Nov 13 2009, 02:53 PM Post #10
Is the meadow on fire? Posts: 1,524 Group: Members Member #1,122 Joined: June 9, 2007	Hugs, Indy and for your pony.



FlashGordon	Nov 13 2009, 07:53 PM Post #11
Is the meadow on fire? Posts: 1,949 Group: Members Member #2,251 Joined: December 3, 2007	I'm with T.... hope everything is ok, Indy! Been thinking of you guys.



Onelanerode	Nov 14 2009, 07:47 PM Post #12
Thomas H. Cruise! Posts: 632 Group: Members Member #130 Joined: January 7, 2007	nurse-betty@nycap.rr.com Nov 12 2009, 01:29 PM I hope this person with a growing level of maturity has learned a hard lesson. Comments like this are uncalled for and unnecessary. Belittling people is not going to get them to listen to what you have to say, regardless of how knowledgeable you claim to be. If the OP truly didn't care about her horse, she wouldn't waste her time by posting here. Indy, I hope your horse is doing better. Lyme can be a real beeyotch. We've got a lovely gelding in our barn now who's being treated for it.



Renn/aissance	Nov 16 2009, 01:22 PM Post #13
Hakuna matata! Posts: 1,941 Group: Admin Member #17 Joined: January 3, 2007	I'm keeping an eye on this thread, guys. Indy, having had Lyme myself twice, I know how much it sucks and I hope your mare feels better soon!



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