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Topic Started: Jan 4 2009, 08:32 PM (6,199 Views)
Black Tack
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OK, I think we get the picture. :o

I bet if this thread getts closed it will be due to a post by one of the "visitors" not the regular TOC gang.....

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I appreciate the willingness of JTM and others to ask for MelliBay's side of the story. I would just caution that there are literally dozens of one side of the story, and she has not responded to any of the dozens who contacted her for her side of the story, other than to continue the "oh, I sent it, but it must have gotten lost in the mail" excuse.

Again, I would caution that MellieBay has met many of the individuals in person at horse shows (when she was barred from entering horse show grounds unbeknownst to them) and social events on more than one occasion, and they all had a great time with her, too.

Not trying to beat a dead horse. Just hoping no one else gets scammed.

And for those of you who feel foolish about not knowing, please don't. This all came out literally within the past week and many facts were confirmed within the past two days.

One of the most amazing thing about TOC is our willingness to take other horse people at face value and trust them. It is truly sad when that trust turns out to be misplaced because it makes it harder for me, at least, to help the next person who truly needs help and is on the up-and-up.
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I guess the thing is, most people here don't know *either* side of the story.

We have a whole BUNCH of people coming on here who a)I have never seen before or b)very very rarely post on here and haven't in a long time, and they're all saying "Mellie is a very bad person, do not ever trust her again, she is a scam artist!!!"

So hopefully you understand, its pretty easy to question that, under the circumstances.

And if it's all just cropped up in the last few days, do we actually know she is a scam artist, and doesn't really truly need help of some sort (ie: is in dire straights)?
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Fred
Jan 8 2009, 04:56 AM
and while I am here... did no one miss MEEEEEE????? :pissed:

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I miss you Fred-o!!!! :hug: :hug: :hug: I have wondered where you've been I see you on COTH on the rare occasion that I go over there, but I don't post often. I'm a TOCer. :yes:

I actually had an unusual happening over Christmas that involved you. My BIL and SIL were here for a long stay (which was lovely) and they were discussing music that they like. They started telling me about a folk singer from Canada, named Stan Rogers. I said, "oh cool". A couple of hours later (yes, I am blond and slow sometimes) a light-bulb went off and I started to think, Hmmmm...I know a "Rogers"...lives in Canada...has a folk singer for a husband. I started listing some of the songs and they didn't ring a bell to them. We dug around on the internet and discovered the connection. Pretty cool! I was going to head over to COTH and PM you about it. THey had not heard of Gernet and after sampling a few tunes, bought a couple of CD's from Amazon. :clap:

How is my very favorite stallion doing???? Love to Riggsy too. I haven't seen her in a AGE!

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JumpTheMoon
Jan 8 2009, 10:04 AM
I guess the thing is, most people here don't know *either* side of the story.

We have a whole BUNCH of people coming on here who a)I have never seen before or b)very very rarely post on here and haven't in a long time, and they're all saying "Mellie is a very bad person, do not ever trust her again, she is a scam artist!!!"

So hopefully you understand, its pretty easy to question that, under the circumstances.

And if it's all just cropped up in the last few days, do we actually know she is a scam artist, and doesn't really truly need help of some sort (ie: is in dire straights)?
I agree. I would hope that she's just having trouble getting back on her feet and that she doesn't know how to approach this.

Yesterday came off as a little "witch hunt" to me, BUT I do have a lot of respect for everyone that is regularly on this board, so I am trying to take this with grain of salt and consider both sides and stay out of the middle, since it doesn't involve me.

Like I said before, it just saddens me to find a "fault" in a community that I greatly appreciate and admire.
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JumpTheMoon
Jan 8 2009, 10:04 AM
I guess the thing is, most people here don't know *either* side of the story.

We have a whole BUNCH of people coming on here who a)I have never seen before or b)very very rarely post on here and haven't in a long time, and they're all saying "Mellie is a very bad person, do not ever trust her again, she is a scam artist!!!"

So hopefully you understand, its pretty easy to question that, under the circumstances.

And if it's all just cropped up in the last few days, do we actually know she is a scam artist, and doesn't really truly need help of some sort (ie: is in dire straights)?
I am loath to involve myself in this in a non-administrative capacity, but hopefully, since I'm active on this board outside of big red letters, this might have a little more weight coming from me. If not, no one has lost anything by my trying.

I was one of the people who entrusted MellieBay with money to purchase a group gift for a mutual friend; that was six months ago and the gift has not been delivered. When questioned about what was going on Mellie either gave a number of excuses that at first seemed very plausible, but as time continued to go on, they seemed to be empty. As of right now that friend has not received the gift that we pooled money to help her buy. Since then it has come out among other members that numerous loans given to Mellie were not repaid.

Those are the facts of the situation as I know them, and as far as I am involved; and as I said, I have a dog in this fight.

I personally feel that while Mellie may indeed need help, the amount of money provided to her (whether with the understanding that it was not her money to keep, or whether it was given to her by loan) seems to have been invested in luxuries rather than necessities, which makes me very disappointed in someone that I considered a friend.

I applaud you for wanting to know Mellie's side of the story; I certainly do too. I appreciate that you do not want to condone what may seem like a witch hunt against your friend without knowing both sides of the story. And believe you me, if this turns into a witch hunt, whoever starts it and whoever finishes it, along with the people in between, are going to be penalized according to board rules (and warnings have been given out already) regardless of who they are, because first of all witch hunts just ain't right, and second of all, they're a pain in the butt to clean up after.

That is the last I am going to say personally on this matter. I already run the risk of administrating with bias because I am involved with the situation personally, and I do not want to compromise that further by getting involved on a personal level in this thread. I am posting this now only because it was pointed out that much of what has been said here has come from people that, while an original part of this community and the moderating team, do not often post.
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I'm so confused- when I saw that FB group yesterday, Melliebay was a MEMBER of it? I really thought it was all a joke...
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Not to derail but showponymom, I've missed you and I've been thinking of you guys and hoping things were going well health wise. Freckles' owner know I talk with you and always tells me to say "thank you I love my pony." Literally, she tells me that everytime she sees me. She took Freckles to her pony club rating, passed, and the evaluators raved about how wonderful Freckles was. So, love from me and also from Freckles. :)
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Thanks for claryfying your interest in it, Renn.

I don't think it's an easy situation for anyone.
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jillintexas
Jan 8 2009, 10:04 AM
Hmmmm...I know a "Rogers"...lives in Canada...has a folk singer for a husband. I started listing some of the songs and they didn't ring a bell to them. We dug around on the internet and discovered the connection. Pretty cool! I was going to head over to COTH and PM you about it. THey had not heard of Gernet and after sampling a few tunes, bought a couple of CD's from Amazon. :clap:
Garnett Rogers' CDs are regulars here, just about every evening. :)

Hi Fred and Happy New Year!
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Thanks for sharing Renn. I consider Mellie a friend and I thought the FB stuff yesterday was a joke--didn't realize anything was going on. I hope whatever is going on can get resolved and there can be peace in the land. I like everyone here and just want everyone to get along and hope everything turns out fairly for all involved.
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Jan 8 2009, 10:38 AM
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Jan 8 2009, 10:04 AM
Hmmmm...I know a "Rogers"...lives in Canada...has a folk singer for a husband. I started listing some of the songs and they didn't ring a bell to them. We dug around on the internet and discovered the connection. Pretty cool! I was going to head over to COTH and PM you about it. THey had not heard of Gernet and after sampling a few tunes, bought a couple of CD's from Amazon. :clap:
Garnett Rogers' CDs are regulars here, just about every evening. :)

Hi Fred and Happy New Year!
...of course I mispelled "GARNET" in my original post. :rolleyes: <--------at self
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Wow. Lots going on in TOC land. I am sorry to all who were involved with the Mellie Mess.


I have been laying low not posting. I recieved a warning level change PM and had my signature erased. I am not sure if I am allowed to post anymore so I just stayed away.
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Well.

I was just wondering where Mellie went as she was Hubbies Secret Santa and we wanted to know she got the gifties.

So, umm, did she do her Elf work or is that one of the perhaps Grinched Ones?

I can't open the Facebook link for some reason.


I don't think I 'm a good judge of character over a BB either, Jaci. but I do seem to give everyone the benfit of the doubt. :sigh:
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Me too DQ and I'm going to stay that way :clap:

Thanks for the explanation Renn. We do appreciate hearing from folks in TOC.
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