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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 18 2007, 06:41 AM (1,662 Views) | |
| TishQ | Jul 20 2007, 10:43 PM Post #31 |
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I didn't take notes so I know I will miss a lot of points that need to be covered but I can answer a couple of them. I am on the Hunter Breeding Task Force. How did I get on....a long standing member of the committee put my name up a couple of times before I was selected to become a part of the committee. I really am not sure what the rules say about the selection of committee members. I do think that part of my selection was partly to try to achieve some degree of geographic balance. One of the biggest duties of the committee is the organization and presentation of the Sallie B. Wheeler/USEF National Hunter Breeding Championship. I have worked (and am currently working) very hard on the west coast phase. We also address rule changes and changes of wording anytime an issue is presented to us. I don't have the rule book in front of me at the moment but I believe the current wording says "jog". The committee is mainly in agreement that the wording should be changed to "trot" in order to make it clear that the trot should be sufficient to really be able to judge the movement of the horse and that movement should be stressed. There has been discussion of situations like Laurie described where a handler qualifies more than one horse for the BYH. In order to be fair to all of his clients and treat all the horses equally, should it be acceptable for the handler to have assistants lead the horses and the handler can come to each horse and stand it up and trot it? My personal opinion is that it is okay. What do you think? The current rules do allow for an assistant to trot the horse but is also clear that there can not be two people handling the horse at the same time....meaning that one person must step clear away from the horse and not do anything to influence the horse when the other person is handling it. There are lots of questions in this thread that have not been brought to the committee and there are items here that I had never heard about. The committee does discuss and try to resolve any questions or issues that are presented. It never occurred to me that anyone would show a Hunter Breeding horse without braids. Braids are traditional and they are part of a proper turn-out. Yes, they are expensive unless you do them yourself but they really are only a small part of the over-all expense. I vote for keeping the braiding. If anyone wants to give me questions or problems that need to be taken to the committee I will be happy to do it. Right now we are all very focused on the championship so we might not get into very long, deep discussions of new items until after the championships.....and I personally plan to sleep for a week after the Sallie B. Wheeler/USEF National Hunter Breeding Championship 2007 is completed. |
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| virginiabred | Jul 21 2007, 05:21 AM Post #32 |
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I'm personally of the mind that the tradition of one handler for all phases of showing a horse should continue. Many. many times you'll see a BNH show an animal in each class, and when it comes time for the championship, he or she will get stand-ins for any of the others that are called back for the championship. To do it otherwise seems amazing to me. As far as the jog vs trot, I am completely against changing the wording to accommodate aging joints or the infirmities of old age. It is how to best showcase your animal. Period. The lack of braiding should not be encouraged. WTF? Showing a youngster in hand is an art in of itself. To reduce or eliminate the stresses that come with it is watering down the process, and I'm totally against it. |
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| Silver Bells | Jul 21 2007, 06:25 AM Post #33 |
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While I agree with both Tish and VaBred, I really think so many issues fall on deaf ears. I have heard MANY say they are "tired of trying to change things". Personally I have been feeling very frustrated as of late when it comes to issues that NEED to be addressed in the HB discipline. I suggest we all make a "wish list" and get it to Tish and ALL the other members of the Hunter breeding Task Force, and any other committee that may have some influence. |
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| TishQ | Jul 21 2007, 07:54 AM Post #34 |
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Good idea SB. VB, the word change we are trying to get done is to change it FROM "JOG" (the way it is currentlly written) TO "TROT" (so that everyone understands that they should trot big enough and long enough to really show movement.) The reason there is support for the current rule that allows a handler to present mulitple horses in one class (especially BYH) is so that the judge is the one who makes the decision as to which is the winner instead of the handler saying "I will lead the horse that I think is the winner and get assistants to handle the "also rans." And the handler does not have to alienate the majority of his owners becasue he chose the other horse to lead. We did discuss the problem of the perception of it being a political choice....but we also recognized that the reason the top handlers win so often is usually because they do the best job of handling the horse and stand it up the best. I really do think the committee is trying to address every issue that comes to us. Not everyone agrees with every final decision but they do get full discussion and a vote. Everyone on the committee cares a lot about this division and most of us are breeders and/or handlers. We want it to be the best it can be. We do want everyone's input. But we would also like for everyone to know that we are trying to do a good job. Please work with us. |
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| Silver Bells | Jul 21 2007, 07:01 PM Post #35 |
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Tish... all this makes perfect sense. The hoses should TROT and be made to show their stuff. Thank you so much for all your tireless efforts. Slowly but surely, and with everyone's cooperation things will hopefully get done. We still need more people to get their HB judge's cards!
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| TishQ | Jul 21 2007, 08:55 PM Post #36 |
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Thanks SB, start working on your "wish list" and we can take it to the committee after the championships are done. It might help if you innclude suggestions along with any complaints or frustrations...positive input goes a long way. Thanks. |
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I have heard MANY say they are "tired of trying to change things". Personally I have been feeling very frustrated as of late when it comes to issues that NEED to be addressed in the HB discipline.

12:21 PM Jul 11