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stallion suggestions
Topic Started: May 7 2007, 06:05 PM (620 Views)
lhunterl
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A friend asked me for suggestions for her mare, and I've already given her a fairly good list but I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.

The mare is appendix, good mover, about 15.3/16h. The owner wants a shorter stronger back and a quieter braver temperament. She prefers something versatile - she has both a dressage and hunter background so would like something that could potentially do either - and something that has proven itself performance wise. She said absolutely no Traks and prefers no Selle Francais lines. Any other warmbloods are okay, but she would prefer less TB blood as the mare is very TB'y herself. No frozen semen.

This would be for next year.
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TrueColours
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You know, when I owned him, I REALLY liked Watch Me - an Oldenburg stallion that showed dressage and is now owned by Paul Garrison:

http://www.garrisonequine.com/stallion.htm

He seemed to cross beautifully on a wide variety of mares, with most going on to dressage careers, some in the hunter and event disciplines, but they were all really nice, trainable types and most were a good 16.3-17hh+ as well

Good luck in your search! :)
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Best to Best
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Hunter or dressage... that would be the first question to answer... yes, to have both would be ideal, but for hunter, stallions are more so built on the level, to downhill side, while dressage types are uphill. Is she wanting to breed for something on the ammy , or competitive level? Ammy level breeding gives you more room for average breeding towards "all around" types, while competitive level breeding should be aimed more discipline specific. JMO
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Dancinglite
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lhunterl
May 7 2007, 08:05 PM
No frozen semen.

This would be for next year.

I am assuming you are looking at fresh or cooled ?

Posting your location might help in your search.
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spacely
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lhunterl
May 7 2007, 05:05 PM
both a dressage and hunter background so would like something that could potentially do either

Well, you need to pick. Once you start breeding for an "all-around" type, you lose quality quickly. Any horse can do low level dressage, but they can't all do the hunters.

Seeing a pic would help, but I saw a baby by Escapade o/o an appendix mare that I quite liked.
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I'd have to agree with Spacely. I just happen to have an Escapade baby out of my Appendix mare and I adore him. Teddy Bear personality and put together pretty nicely, if I do say so myself. :one:
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spacely
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Desilu, it's your baby I am referring to. I love your mare as well. Got any recent pics? ;)
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Thanks Spacely! :teehee: Here is his latest photo chapter. He got a body clip for his 4 week birthday. (please note it's not perfect - we quit while he was still being a good boy)

My mare is my dream horse.............I only wanted to improve on her length of leg since she's only 15'1" but she's so round she takes up my leg. I think we may be in luck with that but we'll have to see what Sammy turns into when he grows up. Right now, he's an absolute character and oh so entertaining. (Rumor has it he's been mounting the cows in the pasture for fun) Boys................

http://bvargas3.photosite.com/Espionage-ak...y/Firsthaircut/

My plan is to just keep adding chapters to the photosite as he grows this first year. I think he's pretty darn handsome but I could be a little bit biased! :P
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spacely
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What a handsome little man! You hit the jackpot with him! :clap:
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Dancinglite
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spacely
May 8 2007, 10:38 PM
Well, you need to pick. Once you start breeding for an "all-around" type, you lose quality quickly. Any horse can do low level dressage, but they can't all do the hunters.


I must disagree with you here. "All arounders" are eventers and I would hardly call them lacking in quality.

There are stallions out there that do more than just low level dressage and do very very well in hunter or jumper as well. True they may be a little more difficult to find as everyone has gone into the "specialist" market so much, that you just don't see that many spending promotional dollars in more than one market.

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And I also disagree with you. Event horses are now specialized. Maybe not at the lowest levels, but most certainly at the upper levels.

When you start breeding for an "all-arounder" you lose quality quickly. We should always strive to produce upper level horses because you won't always get that. Pick a discipline & breed for it, but don't breed for a horse that can do alittle of this & a little of that. You aren't going to get much in the way of high quality & shouldn't we always try
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Dancinglite
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spacely
May 8 2007, 11:31 PM
And I also disagree with you. Event horses are now specialized. Maybe not at the lowest levels, but most certainly at the upper levels.


Actually you are agreeing with me for I said they were hardly lacking in quality and since eventers are as you suggested "specialists" in stadium jumping,dressage and cross crountry maybe the OP should be looking at a proven eventer stallion or one that produces offspring that excel in that discipline.
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lhunterl
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Well unfortunately it's not my decision, so I can't pick for her. All I can do is repeat what she asked for. I'm assuming that what she means is a horse that has produced both dressage horses and hunters, which there are plenty of. I think the hunter takes precedence, knowing her. I can't see her aspiring to any high level dressage, and really just about any horse could go do the lower levels just fine.
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Dancinglite
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Although A Fine Romance is a TB I really suggest she at least take a look at this stallion. He has everything your friend asks for. Produced event babies but also dressage and hunter. Good temperment in the babies and do not have that "skinny TB look" in them.
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I agree.... ESCAPADE... or Risingstar's CIELO B...
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