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| What do you do with your wild child?; how do you handle the "crazies?" | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 10 2007, 08:06 PM (996 Views) | |
| justkidding | Jan 10 2007, 08:06 PM Post #1 |
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Schooling
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With the cold weather still hanging around, my horse has got the "crazies". she has sooo much excess energy, and because my barn i am unable to turn her out in the pasture. (she's clipped and wears blankets, which are apparently not allowed so she can't go out with the other mares) I've dropped her grain a little and am supplementing with hay, and turn her out or lunge before i ride, but it is SO time consuming and arenas are never empty.could you share with me some other tactics I haven't thought of, or some horror stories to make me feel better? thanks!-JK |
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| Irish Ei's | Jan 11 2007, 08:58 AM Post #2 |
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Grab mane and kick on!
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Looks to me like there are no shortcuts...Go lunge. Most horses tend to lose weight over the winter, so I wouldn't consider any more feed changes... Go Lunge... |
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| SnackPack | Jan 11 2007, 09:24 AM Post #3 |
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You're BANNED!
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I make the trainer ride him. :lol: Well, not really. If it's my day to ride and he's higher than a kite, I will longe him first. If he doesn't seem high until I get on him, I'm not above a mid ride longe. I am still rehabbing my arm/shoulder from coming off of him over a year ago, so I don't want to hurt myself again. Show's definitely a Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde with the season change. If you pay attention to his mood, he will pretty reliably tell you when a storm is coming in (very sensitive to pressure changes) and if there is static electricity in the air, watch out. Winter Show always makes me appreciate Spring/Summer/Fall Show all the more. |
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| Irish Ei's | Jan 11 2007, 09:30 AM Post #4 |
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Grab mane and kick on!
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Ummm....it's also the beginning of, err, "Honeymoon" Season in lots of places.... |
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| justkidding | Jan 11 2007, 06:09 PM Post #5 |
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Schooling
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ahhh! it is indeed "honeymoon" season. mares.... she was a girl today though |
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| yellowbritches | Jan 20 2007, 06:29 PM Post #6 |
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I Visited Candy Mountain and All I Got Was This Lousy Incision
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Shorten your reins, get up in two point, and canter her around and around until she's ready to put her working hat on. Our darling little mare won't settle into her work (any time of the year) until she's cantered around. Sometimes it is just a lap or two, sometimes it's a few minutes with a few little bucky things to work the kinks out. |
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| Diva98 | Jan 20 2007, 07:10 PM Post #7 |
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I just dealt with this today. It was incredibly cold and my mare just got clipped.
I don't like to lunge her because she has some issues with her ankles, etc - so I did just what yellowbritches said - bridged my reins and went for a little spin. Only took a few times around and she was back to working mode and we actually had quite a nice ride. I was actually very proud of her - I think she is finally growing up. A few years ago, I would have been a goner - she would have bucke me into the rafters.
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| OakesBrae | Jan 21 2007, 06:27 AM Post #8 |
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Shunnnnn the unbeliever. Shunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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I like to tack Wendall up, take him to the ring do his reins up (under one tied up stirrup with the leather tucked in, then wrapped twice around with the throatlatch so they are out of the way completely) and send him off to be stupid by himself. He's really good at it - he runs around, bucks and carries on, and when he's done, he comes walking over to me like "Hi mom, sorry about that, I'm ready now". I don't like to longe to get sillies out because he's a big young boy (3 1/2) and the longe is for work, not for play (at least in my world). Once he's done being stupid, I put his quarter sheet on, and we put in some good trot work - we do not walk until I feel his back start to relax and get that nice relaxed trot - if I walk before that I KNOW I'm in for sillies and spooks because he's just so on edge. |
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| cindeye | Jan 21 2007, 09:22 AM Post #9 |
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Off visiting Candy Cave, be right back.
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Ah, if this only worked on our OTTB. He "works up"...not down! Sometimes, it's best to just stick with his antics as long as you can. Then put him back in his stall for a few hours and rinse and repeat. |
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| Lord Helpus | Jan 21 2007, 12:47 PM Post #10 |
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I Visited Candy Mountain and All I Got Was This Lousy Incision
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What do people do with nervous horses. The kind that grind their teeth, ball up into a ball and get sensitive, but do not get strong or buck. The kind I am talking about do not go faster, they just get shorter strided and take more steps, but the never lean on the bit -- the opposite, they curl un into a ball. If you try to push them forward into your hand, the trot gets quicker, not longer. They will break into a canter, but not a fast canter, just a quick canter. And still the reins will be flopping. Lunging does no good. These horses are worried, not high. |
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| Jessi P | Jan 21 2007, 04:56 PM Post #11 |
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Shunnnnn the unbeliever. Shunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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Fluphenazine? Prolixin? That is what we would do with a nervous nelly race horse. They dont need to expend nervous energy. Calm N Cool paste? Quietex powder? Ace granules or IM inj. They simply CANNOT learn anything with the nervous button engaged. They have to be in a "calm submissive" state of mind. |
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| KaliTude | Jan 21 2007, 04:57 PM Post #12 |
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Thomas H. Cruise!
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In Pippa Funnell's video "Riding your new horse" she rides a horse very much like this (a 6 year old OTTB). It's an interesting section of the video actually, she shortens her reins a lot and forces the horse to accept contact even though he is way behind the vertical and has a very quick step. She works on loads of transitions really keeping him in front of the legs with a lot of almost transitions to the walk. Biy does he put in a buck at one point! It's fascinating, she does very well with him. I think the point was to not allow him to avoid the hand or leg ever. She's much tougher and braver than me!! |
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| Black Tack | Jan 21 2007, 06:33 PM Post #13 |
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You're BANNED!
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Interesting. With a nervous nelly type, I would stay away from lots of transitions and insisting on contact. I would work at trot ALOT, stretching down into a light contact and figures, figures, figures. Keep their minds busy and not knowing what's coming up next - circles, serpentines, figure 8s... until they relax into the work. |
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| KaliTude | Jan 21 2007, 06:47 PM Post #14 |
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Thomas H. Cruise!
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Well this horse was behind the bit and behind the leg in a little ball, there was no stretching and no contact. The point was getting the horse to accept the contact and get in front of the leg before you could even ask for a stretch into the contact. Totting around and around he would just get more and more quick. What I found interesting was there are loads of different ways to approach different problems. Sometimes you have to go through an ugly stage and force a connection before getting to the nice relaxed stretchy stage. Anyway, it's a fascinating video. I used some of her suggestions today that she made riding her nice 4 year old homebred and I had a huge a-ha moment. |
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| Lord Helpus | Jan 22 2007, 11:23 AM Post #15 |
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I Visited Candy Mountain and All I Got Was This Lousy Incision
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Black Tack, the problem is that you can't get contact. Your way works with horses which lean on the bit and get srong, but not with horses which curl up into a ball. KaliTude, I was actually thinking of putting him in a pelham. It seems so counter intuitive, just like the video. But a pelham makes a horse want to lean while the bottom rein makes the horse want to flex and curl and accept the bit. I do the same thing with getting him to almost drop back to the walk -- because that is the only time I can add leg to get him moving back into a regular trot. So, for about 6 steps at a time I am able to lightly put leg on him. Even though he is not truly in fromt of my leg, at least it is a stqart to getting him to feeling my leg. Which is, I guess, what the video was doing. Whatever it takes to get the horse to actually accept the bit, no matter how curled up the horse is. You cannot get a horse to accept your leg, and then get him in front of your leg, until you can push him up into your hand. And, to push him up into your hand, he has to accept the bit, even if his head is on his chest. I might just do it. I have resisted a flash noseband because I think that anything that restricts this horse wll make him more nervous. Clamping his mouth shut may make the grinding of the teeth go away, but it will not help him mentally. I need to deal with the cause of the teeth grinding, not the grinding itself. Any other comments? |
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i am unable to turn her out in the pasture. (she's clipped and wears blankets, which are apparently not allowed
so she can't go out with the other mares) I've dropped her grain a little and am supplementing with hay, and turn her out or lunge before i ride, but it is SO time consuming and arenas are never empty.
thanks!






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