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Should we ban the racer from running through the oil at the bottom of the screen?
Yes 7 (41.2%)
No 10 (58.8%)
Total Votes: 17
Sonic Megarace; Oil Ocean?
Topic Started: Jan 19 2010, 09:40 AM (363 Views)
MeccaPrime
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This poll is for the Sonic the Hedgehog Megarace thread; the discussion is whether I should allow the racers to run through the oil at the bottom of the Oil Ocean level or not. On the one hand, I didn't ban shortcuts, just glitches, so in keeping with the original rules of the race, it would be totally legal to run through the oil. Others say that everyone running through the oil would make for very similar (and boring) runs, which I also tend to agree with. So I am letting YOU decide (I'm just that nice...), should we make a special rule for Oil Ocean banning the racer from touching the oil, or should we just keep the rules consistent throughout?

YOU DECIDE!!!

I will be closing this poll at 11:59pm EST on Tuesday, January 26th (you have one week to vote)
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somestrangeflea
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dammit gabe im british for frick sake
This is not about making runs interesting.
This is not about making runs unique.
This is about making runs fast.

This is a race.

race
hey guys im a retsupurae ripoff now

looks like theres another dickhead with a headset and an ego on the loose
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MeccaPrime
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I tend to agree with you flea, but I do want to make this interactive as well and give the viewers a say in some part of it. I hope that the rule stands as is, but I am willing to change it if the public so desires.
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Rainiac
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I have to agree with flea. The point of a race is to go fast as you can, not to look cool while doing it (although if you can do that while still going fast, then that's a bonus). Also, banning this shortcut could set a dangerous precedent. After all, if we ban this shortcut, what's to stop someone objecting to other legitimate shortcuts later down the road? Having said that, if we do vote to ban it, I'll respect that decision...
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"...A miserable little pile of secrets!"
I'm saying yes, only for the reason that its the only instance in the race where there is oil to go under-neath. From what I remember, you couldn't make it all the way since the oil rigs structures "legs" went to deep, I must have not tried hard enough.

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Rathematics
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I said no, on the basis that the whole purpose of a race is to see who's the fastest of their own skill. If it's a shortcut that's not given to you and isn't all like "hey, here's a level skip!", but is common knowledge then yeah I'm fine with that, but something that allows the level to essentially be skipped... that's more of a speedrun tactic, really, where the goal is to get the fastest time regardless (usually, the skill of the player is a bonus in such runs (pun not intended) but doesn't factor into it in the long term).
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somestrangeflea
Jan 19 2010, 06:00 PM
This is not about making runs interesting.
This is not about making runs unique.
This is about making runs fast.

This is a race.

race

While I see what you're getting at and for the most part I agree with you, there's a difference between a shortcut that saves 10 seconds or so from one act and takes a degree of skill to pull off (example, jumping the wall in Star Light), and a shortcut that skips the entirety of both acts and reduces the entire zone to a boss fight which any Tom Dick or Harry can pull off without even trying, just like the final zone from sonic 1.

This is a race yes, but it isn't a speedrun. If that makes sense to you.
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BMS
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Well I just played through the Oil Ocean Zone to test this little shortcut here, and figured I'd offer up an explanation of what exactly it is we're talking about, for those of you that are to lazy to look it up yourselves!..haha. Anyways, it IS possible to go under the entire first Act using the ocean, (yes, you can even pass under the various structures with proper spindashing). The problem with this is, is that it's EXTREMELY difficult, I mean I was using savestates just to see how far I could make it, and it was still a challenge. SS's aren't allowed in this race of course, which means the odds of somebody making it through all the way is nigh impossible, but it could be done. I'm on the fence about this, but the way I see it, is if somebody is actually willing to put in that much effort where they're able to accomplish this, then let'em.

Act 2 is another story. You can still pass under all of the obstacles, however when you come out where the boss area is, the screen rapidly scrolls up, and unless you exploit some type of scroll glitch, you'll die if you go all the way. Long story short, I say allow it, with a couple of stipulations. Namely, when you cross the finish sign in Act 1, you actually have to be on the ground when you finish it, you can't cross it while you're in the oil. Finally, (which is covered with the glitch rule, but I'll mention it anyway), no travelling in the oil all the way in Act 2, and then scroll glitching to reach the boss. There's my two cents, and as you can tell, that buys a lot with me!
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MeccaPrime
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By the way... POLL CLOSED.

Result - NO (no special rule will be made banning travel in the oil in Oil Ocean Zone... go get dirty! Just remember that traveling through the oil will be allowed, however abusing glitches is not (i.e. the screen scrolling glitch mentioned above).
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