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| 2016 Olympic Football-Women | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 14 2016, 07:02 PM (705 Views) | |
| shelsoccer | Aug 16 2016, 10:55 AM Post #31 |
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Result: The Swedish "cowards" used the same formula again. How cheeky of them Buckle up, Hobbes. |
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| Sammy Maudlin | Aug 16 2016, 11:26 AM Post #32 |
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The Swedes are doing what they can to advance, pragmatic play with very strong defending. In 120 minutes Brazil could not score on them and the USA only got 1 in the same amount of time. This was on Brazil, with a passionate home crowd behind them they could not break through Sweden's defense. On to PKs, each keeper saved one [from Christiane and Allsani] while both teams converted 3, then the 5th PK taker for Brazil was Andressinha and her shot was saved by Lindahl the Swedish keeper. Just as against the US it was then up to Lisa Dahlkvist to clinch the win and the women with ice in her veins won this one too by converting. Sweden don't play pretty football but they are successful and now are in the gold medal game. And for Brazil, yet another lost opportunity for this women's team to win something. |
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| shelsoccer | Aug 16 2016, 11:53 AM Post #33 |
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The Swedish women play a lot like the Swedish men. They're going to be organized defensively, strong physically and offer just enough threat offensively to keep an opponent somewhat honest. While both have technically proficient players, seldom does either have more than one or two creative players or real game-changers. The Swedish mentality is very much a collective one more so than one rewarding individuality. The recent influx of refugees and asylum seekers may change that (see Zlatan). Speaking of which, I heard an interesting statistic the other day. Sweden has a higher percentage of foreign-born residents, per capita, than the US. |
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| Johnbuildr | Aug 16 2016, 01:29 PM Post #34 |
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Congrats to the Swedish women for an amazing run. (Shel: I will bet the Swedish foreign born residents are much better vetted than in the US! )
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| TonyDE | Aug 16 2016, 03:01 PM Post #35 |
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Sorry hobbes but I think Canada's youth caught up to them today as they lost their semifinal 2-0 to Germany. A rash challenge by Buchanan led to a penalty which broke the stalemate. Then in the 2nd half Germany scored a nice goal to make it 2-0. Canada had a few decent looks but could not put away their chances. not much impact from Sinclair but then again her service was not the east either. Germany looked solid on both ends and like Sweden, they avenged their group defeat so we will have a final on Friday between Sweden-Germany, each looking for their first Olympic gold in women's football. Brazil-Canada for the bronze. shel, interesting figure about Sweden's demographics. You do see that change reflected in their national teams, men's and women's but especially the men. |
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| shelsoccer | Aug 16 2016, 03:20 PM Post #36 |
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My condolences to Hobbes as well. You're right, Tony. You see it more with the Swedish men. Where have all the blondes gone? John, I don't really know what Sweden's vetting process is. I do know that most of the immigrants they've taken in have been eligible for asylum. It started with Bosnians and was followed by a wave of Kurds and Iraqis. I do not believe Sweden has yet taken in many of the more recent wave of refugees from the Middle East and N. Africa. |
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| hobbes | Aug 16 2016, 07:20 PM Post #37 |
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Well crap. We were out-coached and out-played. The reason that was so disappointing and the reason the players seem to be so upset is that they feel they didn't play very well and I can't argue. Too many of our best players didn't have a good game. It started with Sinclair who did very little and frankly I thought looked very tight. It was like she wanted it so badly, she couldn't just relax and play. I love Sophie Schmidt, but she was really poor. Tons and tons of giveaways. The Germans were smart though. They dropped off and tried to press our first pass out of the back. If Fleming had the ball they swarmed her immediately. They marked Sinclair tight. But if Zadorsky or Schmidt or Scott had the ball they let them have it and waited to intercept their pass or wait for them to bypass the midfield. This is where not having Matheson really killed us. I didn't think Tancredi played poorly (thuggishly, sure, but not poorly), but we really missed Matheson's ability to play the ball to feet and pass and move. If Schmidt was on it might have been different. But she wasn't. And Buchanan often will attack space with her speed, but she sat back. It goes without saying that Buchanan's penalty was costly and utterly needless. We were worried about something like that in the run up to the World Cup and she really kept her cool and timed her tackles well and didn't jump in. And at the Olympics she's been far more rash. So I don't really chalk it up to inexperience. Maybe it's over-confidence. But there's no reason to leave your feet in that situation. It wasn't a horrible performance and we had four excellent scoring chances and didn't bury any of them. You can't do that in a semifinal. We had two great chances fall to Beckie, our in-form striker. She missed by inches both times. Sometimes it just isn't your day. Labbé was very good again. She has surpassed all of our wildest expectations going in (she had some real disasters in the last year). I didn't expect us to get this far, but it felt like we were so close to winning something. Who knows if we'll ever get that close again. I was touched and surprised by Ashley Lawrence's reaction at the end. Schmidt was trying to console her and I am just speculating here, but based on the body language of the two I felt like Lawrence was apologizing for letting the older players like Schmidt down. That's the hard part, this is the end of the line for Matheson, Wilkinson, Bélanger and Tancredi I would say for sure. Schmidt, Chapman and Sinclair may be around in three years. They may not be. The future is still pretty bright, but this is a bit of changing of the guard. This really is an odd group btw. Seven of the 18 are 29+ and seven are 21 and younger. There is no one between the ages of 24-27 on the roster. In the early game I thought Brazil let themselves down. They didn't play with the kind of urgency I expected them to have. Sweden played their game to a tee, but how often did Brazil play a one-two to feet? How often did they have the numbers committed forward to make those short passes? When they beat a Swedish player 1v1 they found room and were able to create a little danger, but I didn't think they took enough risks. Taking risks is what the Swedes want them to do obviously, but I didn't think enough players took them on, tried to make incisive passes. Not sure how either team will respond to playing for bronze. Four years ago, the whole country rallied around our team feeling like they were robbed and it lifted them. This is a very different situation. And I don't know if Brazil will put on a show for their fans or be still be hurting from today. cheers, hobbes |
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| Martin | Aug 19 2016, 07:00 PM Post #38 |
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2-1 scores in both the bronze and gold medal matches with Germany and Canada each winning. Germany takes the gold, I had the game on in the background while working so unfortunately did not see anywhere near as much as I wanted. Great way for German coach Sylvia Neid to go out. Looked like Sweden were more adventurous than they were in the quarter and semifinals but an own goal eventually proved to be the difference. I read that in the past 20 years, every World Cup or Olympic title has now been won by either the US or Germany except two, the 2000 Olympics [Norway] and 2011 WWC [Japan]. Shows the dominance of thise two national teams in the women's game. Congrats hobbes on Canada's bronze medal win over Brazil. |
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| hobbes | Aug 20 2016, 01:24 AM Post #39 |
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Thanks Martin. I'm not entirely sure how you're supposed to feel about winning bronze. Especially in a team sport. At the World Cup it has always seemed pointless playing for third. Obviously at the Olympics it means more, but it still was the second-least I was invested in the whole tournament. Which seems weird as I type it. But I was more nervous and excited before every match other than Zimbabwe. And we played really well. We played some nice soccer. We created two very nice goals and we hit a bar and a post. I think we out-footballed Brazil in their own country. This is probably the best I have ever seen any Canadian team play at any level. Not only did we beat some of the best teams in the world, but we did so when it mattered and we played some of the highest quality soccer we've ever played. Even Pellerud got us to the 2003 WWC semis and we beat Japan and China to get there, but we were direct and rugged and this team is so, so much better than that. So hopefully this is a sign of things to come. But three years is a long time and I should just try to enjoy this high-water mark for what it is. I didn't see much of the final, but what I did see, Germany were well-deserving winners. cheers, hobbes |
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| carioca | Aug 20 2016, 07:22 PM Post #40 |
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Job well done Canada, so my congratulations to you as well hobbes. Canada outplayed Brasil in the 3rd place game. Brasil has an aging team and it finally showed. This was the last time out for Christiane and Formiga and it may even be for Marta. Unfortunately they ran out of energy as the tournament progressed, scoring only once in their final 3 games. Germany are worthy winners of the women's tournament. A strong team and their attacking midfielder Maroszan is very impressive. Germany rebuilt their team and with a young base now look to be along with the USA and Canada the three nations ready to dominate women's football. But there is nothing really major internationally until the next Women's World Cup in 2019 so the powers of the game could still change in the next 3 years. |
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| raconteur | Aug 27 2016, 09:36 AM Post #41 |
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A good mini review of Olympic women's football at Rio. It lists the winners & losers from this tournament and it is hard to argue with any of the article's findings. Carioca presaged the article by praising Maroszan's play and noting how this was the Brazilian generation of Marta, Christiane & Formiga's last chance at honors. There is one typo in the article, the next Women's World Cup is in 2019, as carioca pointed out, not 2017. It means women's football, except for the Europeans who play the European championship next summer, essentially takes a hiatus under World Cup 2019 qualifying. |
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