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World Cup draw & World Cup roster...; Discuss away!
Topic Started: Nov 21 2013, 08:39 AM (953 Views)
shelsoccer
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It's interesting to me how little discussion there is about Mike Magee. No, he's not a game-changer, but he is the kind of versatile player JK seems to like. He can play any of the three attacking midfield positions in our 4-2-3-1, and he's particularly effective on the left side (though, not a true winger). If you're getting down to Nos. 22 and 23, it seems to me he should be in the discussion.
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shelsoccer,Jan 2 2014
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It's interesting to me how little discussion there is about Mike Magee.  No, he's not a game-changer, but he is the kind of versatile player JK seems to like.  He can play any of the three attacking midfield positions in our 4-2-3-1, and he's particularly effective on the left side (though, not a true winger).  If you're getting down to Nos. 22 and 23, it seems to me he should be in the discussion.

You are so right, shelsoccer...have been racking my brain, to figure out the 4th forward on the roster & was going with Herculez Gomez or Terrence Boyd but there's no denying the kind of season that Magee had in 2013! Can't believe I didn't think of Magee before & still can't believe that trade my Galaxy made but that's an issue for an MLS thread <_<

Always have liked Magee...he's not flashy but does his job & does it well. I really hope JK calls him up for the January camp & would be VERY disappointed if Magee wasn't included. At this point, I'd definitely go with Magee over Gomez or Boyd.

Of course, the question is whether Magee can perform on the international level...which is why JK needs to call him up next week!
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It'd be a shame if JK doesn't take a look at him this month. You'd think the league MVP would rate a look-see.

He's had an interesting career. He was something of a minor sensation as a youngster (MetroStars, I believe) and may have a cap or two. He then kind of just settled into being a role player, particularly with the Galaxy. But, he was always a pretty effective role player. Then, he gets off to a fast start this year, the Galaxy trade him (at his request to be closer to family) and he has a break-out year.

I have no idea how he'd do at the international level. He's not particularly fast nor athletic. He's just learned the game -- good touch, good vision, moves well off the ball and can finish.
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Steve Davis takes a look at home some unknowns in previous January camps who have made their way onto the national team:

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Here are the late-comers who arrived into prominence previously via January camp (some in World Cup years, but not all):

•2002: You were a pretty good domestic soccer fan in 2001 if you knew Pablo Mastroeni, a tough and talented up-and-comer who had just completed a fantastic season with soon-to-expire Miami. He entered the January camp that year uncapped in World Cup qualifiers. But when Chris Armas was injured in the World Cup run-up, Mastroeni found himself a starter in Korea. A starter!

•2006: Jimmy Conrad got his first national team attention in the 2005 January camp. By that summer he was a Gold Cup contributor, and a year after that Conrad became a major part of the 2006 World Cup effort, making critical appearances against Ghana and Italy.

•2012: Two years ago Graham Zusi and Geoff Cameron were peripheral figures with the national team, just hopefuls, really. But both made starts in 1-0 wins against Venezuela and Panama to finish that camp. Zusi even contributed the game-winner in Panama City, and they have more or less been national team fixtures since then.

•2013: Matt Besler was uncapped at this time one year ago. Let that sink in. He was named to the January camp a year back, made an impression (clearly) and got his first cap on Jan. 29 of 2013 against Canada. By March he was a center back starter alongside Omar Gonzalez. Still is.


Klinsmann has shown with Zusi, Cameron, Gonzalez and Besler that he is not afraid to give newcomers a chance. Something to think about as we enter this January US training camp.
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Timothy Chandler has been the right back on the last two Bundesliga teams of the week. something to consider as we consider right back candidates. I'd like to see Chandler get a chance for the US' next match on a FIFA date, in March against Ukraine.
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Merengue,Jan 27 2014
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Timothy Chandler has been the right back on the last two Bundesliga teams of the week.  something to consider as we consider right back candidates.  I'd like to see Chandler get a chance for the US' next match on a FIFA date, in March against Ukraine.

I understand why people want to see Chandler & I know his form seems to be very good but I have issues with him.

I'm just not comfortable with a player who's been so flip-floppy with playing for the USMNT in the past. Sorry but I want a player who's proud of the USMNT shirt & is 100% committed to play for the national team...and I just don't think Chandler is that player.
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(edited) I would speculate that our German born (ironic in that he would not seem to be as inclined to be a flag waving USA guy as some of us might be) national team manager agrees with you, americafutbol10! Otherwise, why does he seem to be avoiding Chandler?

It is somewhat similar to when Donovan was wavering in his committment to the team. JK turns a pretty hard and cold shoulder to anyone expressing anything but wild enthusiasm about wishing to be called up.

Show much less positive attittude than that, and your form alone will not get you the phone call.
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What I find ironic about the situation is that it wasn't that long ago that it seemed that the Nats' German-born manager was intent on bringing in as many of the eligible Deutschamerikanisch contingent as he possibly could, and was strongly in favor of the guys from the US proving themselves in Europe, and while there, pushing themselves to bigger and higher levels. Meanwhile, his team was struggling on the field.

Cut to now, where, coming off a very successful year, more than half of the team plays in MLS, and the one only of the Deutschamerikanisch players who appears to have an inside track to Brasil is the one Bob Bradley brought in: Jermaine Jones! I'm not opposed to the inclusion of either Chandler or Fabian Johnson, based on talent/need, I just think it's funny how, as that noted philosopher Mike Tyson once observed, 'Everyone's got a plan, until they get hit'.
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<<..... I just think it's funny how, as that noted philosopher Mike Tyson once observed, 'Everyone's got a plan, until they get hit'....>>

Classic, Roosevelt, you had me lauging out loud.......

Like most managers, JK apparently reserves the right to make decisions that make no logical sense to others nor which seem to follow his own stated guidelines and goals.... :huh:
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I think JK has had to adopt to the evolving growth of MLS. As the league signs players like Dempsey, Bradley, Edu and Parkhurst and the overall level of play rises, he can no longer claim they'd be better off in Europe, where too many ride the bench or play for mid-table clubs.
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That is a no kidding excellent point Shel. And it is a much bigger issue now for many more players as you state than it was when JK took over the reins.

But it still doesn't explain the continued snubbing of Chandler, not that you were attempting to explain that.
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Check out the last few paragraphs of this story focusing on Jozy Altidore's struggles at Sunderland for a pretty good preview of which XI the US will use to start the World Cup vs Ghana.

The writer's projections are:

Tim Howard; Geoff Cameron, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, Fabian Johnson; Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones; Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, Aron Johannsson, Jozy Altidore


I like. Note he also notes how Chandler may be a wild card but March's Ukraine game will be the real test of whether he is in the World Cup picture.
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Chandler is cap-tied to the USA. He cannot flip anymore.
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raconteur,Jan 29 2014
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Check out the last few paragraphs of this story focusing on Jozy Altidore's struggles at Sunderland for a pretty good preview of which XI the US will use to start the World Cup vs Ghana.

The writer's projections are:

Tim Howard; Geoff Cameron, Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, Fabian Johnson; Michael Bradley, Jermaine Jones; Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, Aron Johannsson, Jozy Altidore


I like.  Note he also notes how Chandler may be a wild card but March's Ukraine game will be the real test of whether he is in the World Cup picture.

Getting a little concerned about Altidore and, word is, that Dempsey hasn't looked good at Fulham...that's two of our most important players, along with Bradley, and their current form is not very awe-inspiring <_<

Of course, there is a lot of time before June...but not many opportunities to play together, outside of the March friendly in Ukraine.

I like the starting XI proposed...however, I really feel that Donovan & Zusi could play in the starting XI. Just put Donovan at LM & Zusi at RM and, if Altidore's form gets really bad, we could go with Johannsson or EJ as the lone striker.
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In addition to the game in the Ukraine, there's word that a friendly with Mexico is the works. You also need to keep an eye on the political situation in the Ukraine.
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