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USA vs Mexico (WCQ); Tuesday, 10 Sept 13; Columbus, OH
Topic Started: Aug 17 2013, 08:46 AM (1,044 Views)
vince stravino
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8pm EST on ESPN.
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Ok the US enters this game without the suspended Altidore, Besler and Cameron. Bradley will miss the game with injury and so will Brooks who has been sent back to recuperate with Hertha Berlin.

Joe Corona, Brad Davis, Jose Torres and Clarence Goodson have been added to the roster.

This will be an intriguing match, all US-Mexico qualifying games are intriguing but now we have a US team filled with absences through injury and suspensions facing a Mexico team who just changed coaches. That usually sparks a team so this can be a very dangerous match for the US. No time for complacency.
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Feels a bit like 2001. Mexico was reeling. They just lost to CR at home. Complete disarray. They change coaches. The Yanks were rolling. Then, Mathis gets hurt. I think Reyna was out as was Wolff.

We go down to Azteca and start Joe Max-Moore at forward. Chris Klein has our only shot on net and lose 0-1. Mexico storms back and we barely squeak in after T&T with ten men get their only win in the Hex away at Honduras. Whew.

This is a little different. We have the Tri at home and it is later in qualifying. Mexico is even more unsettled, but we are scrambling to put a strong eleven on the pitch in a few days time. This will be fun.

WCQ is always unpredictable.
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Klinsmann will have to make some bold lineup picks. I guess this is where the Gold Cup experience will help some players. But who the hell starts alongside Gonzalez in defense? Goodson or Orozco I would imagine. Centerback is Orozco's better position and he is always up to play Mexico so he may get the nod over Goodson. Goodson and Gonzalez may be too similar in style to effectively pair.

No Bradley, then I would like to see Diskerud, who is the closest to replicating Bradley's style of play. No more using Dempsey as a sole forward, pair him with Eddie Johnson.

Remember while Mexico is struggling at home, with only 3 points from 4 games, they are unbeaten with 5 points from 3 games on the road. This will be a difficult test for the US. But with Panama away and Jamaica at home remaining after Tuesday, this should be the US' last truly tough game in qualifying.
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Must admit that I didn't feel optimistic about the Costa Rica match...too many things going against us...but, when Bradley came up hobbling before the match, I knew it would be a LONG night. At least, Bradley's injury is not as bad as, originally, feared...though he will miss the Mexico match. Altidore's STUPID yellow card near the end v CR was as DUMB a move as could be expected & I hope JK really "laid the lumber" on him afterwards :angry:

We NEED to win this game...and, convincingly IMO. We have a badly struggling Mexico at home...and that can be dangerous...but we need to come out with a "killer instinct" like never before & step on their throat, right away! I have some shake-ups in my XI:

-------------------Guzan-------------------
Parkhurst----Omar-----Goodson----DMB
--Zusi---Diskerud---Deuce--F. Johnson--
--------------Landon-----EJ----------------

Subs: Orozco, Corona & Johannsson.


I still like Howard but feel that he's not quite what he used to be (i.e., BIG save) & should give Guzan a chance. I also think a Deuce-Mix pairing at CM could be quite unique & effective and, with no Altidore, I think we need to go with a 4-4-2 formation.

Looking for NOTHING less than, Dos a Cero!!! ;)
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I'm not especially confident about this one. El Tri is both desperate and likely to get the 'new coach' bounce. They have done better away from home, and, as noted, the Nats will be playing without some key pieces.

As far as your proposed line-up goes, af10, definitely a new look! But as RFT suggests, I'd think I'd rather see Gonzalez-Orozco. I don't think the US can afford to have a lumbering central defense (Goodson-Gonzalez) against a quality opponent. I'm also not sure there's enough bite in your midfield to keep it from being overrun. Having at least one of either Jones (not among my favorites) or Beckerman would seem necessary.

I should also add, not regarding your line-up, but the manager's, that while my respect for DMB is immense, continuing the switch of playing him at LB and FJohnson as winger is just tempting fate big time.

OTOH, JK has got us to the point where there's some cushion for the Nats should the Columbus magic come to an end this cycle. Nevertheless, it will be an intense night in Ohio, I'm quite sure.
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Agree with Roosevelt. There is not much to be positive about for this game, other than it being a home game in a place where we have pretty much dominated Mexico repeatedly.
But that was all then, this is now. I am not sure how this situation could be a whole lot worse for the US, short of additional injuries.
Our best scoring threat took himself out of the game on one of the possibly dumbest ass things I have ever seen a US player do in years given the situation. The one player who controls the way the team plays more than any other two or three players together, a field general unlike any the US has ever had, is out on a freak injury. Then you have the back line, which JK has yet to find the right combination to provide any stability for an entire game, and who apparently can't stop a header offensive attack to save their lives.
Add to that a GK who begins to look more average as each game goes by.

If Landon and Clint can lead this team to a win here against an absolutely desperate Mexico team, it will be an amazing feat and I will be damned surprised and impressed.
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Has there ever been a US-Mexico qualifier for which BOTH sets of supporters were as pessimistic as this one?

I can't recall one.
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I might not be thrilled about our situation but am as optimistic as ever about beating Mexico! Frankly, with all the latest talk about our improving depth, if we can't beat our main rival because of TWO players (Bradley & Altidore), we have bigger problems ahead!

Totally understand the importance of Bradley...and Jozy...to our success but other guys NEED to step up & show that we CAN win without our best players!!!

I'm fully expecting this USMNT to redeem itself v Mexico...and will be, depressingly disappointed, if they don't!
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Well af10 it is more than just Bradley and Altidore but also Besler, the new leader of the backline who will be missing. So a key player on each line will be out and that would hurt any team no matter its depth. But this is time to regroup and the opportunity to possibly assure World Cup qualification against your great rival should be more than enough incentive.

I think Orozco will pair with Gonzalez in defense and Parkhurst will play on the right side of defense. In midfield, I think Jones and Diskerud will be in the middle, F. Johnson and Corona out wide and although not ideal, Donovan and Dempsey up top. Beasley at left back and Howard in goal will be the other starters.
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I will say this, strategically speaking; Mexico will undoubtedly come in with all guns firing, putting our back line under constant assault. If they push too hard and the line holds, they will be very susceptible to counter attacks by our world class finishers Donovan and Dempsey.

But having both Parkhurst and Orozco on the back line is verrry scary to me. :(
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A lot of pessimism on here for a home game against Mexico. The US will feel the loss of Bradley but Besler and Altidore are each IMO replaceable. I think the US, backed by home support, can add to Mexico's misery.

Klinsmann will I think look to populate midfield with players so I can see Jose Torres, called in for this game, playing, perhaps in central midfield along with Jones and Beckerman. Diskerud will be available as a sub, likely for Torres.

My hope is however that Klinsmann will not repeat the mistake of last Friday and start the game without a true center forward. The US does not function well using a "false 9." We are not Spain or FC Barcelona!
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The "foul" on Besler is on video here. It is an absolute shame that he will miss a game due to that.

Campbell should hope karma isn't real.
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Just advising that I'll be in Columbus again for the Big One (and I don't mean Michigan). Anyone else? PM me here. Match report to follow.
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"The U.S. is 23-0-2 in home qualifiers since losing to Honduras in September 2001 at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C., and 37-1-7 in qualifiers on American soil since losing to Costa Rica in 1985 at Torrance Calif."

Is that accurate?

I suppose it is and maybe I shouldn't be surprised but I sometimes see comments about how poorly we do during away qualifiers.

I'd say that is a pretty damn impressive home record for qualifiers. And one that seems to be a winning formula for qualifying for a World Cup.

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