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FIFA Paying Clubs For Players In World Cup
Topic Started: Jan 6 2011, 10:17 AM (324 Views)
Manzanares
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I never knew FIFA did this,

FIFA hands out $40 million from World Cup to clubs

FIFA is handing out $40 million to clubs whose players took part in last year’s World Cup, though that may not placate European clubs who have labelled the fixed-payment system unrealistic.

Bayern Munich have been the most vociferous critics after their Dutch winger Arjen Robben returned injured from the tournament in South Africa. He has yet to play for the Bavarian club this season.

The biggest payout of $866,267 goes to Barcelona, followed by Bayern Munich ($778,667) Chelsea ($762,667), Liverpool ($695,600) and Real Madrid ($678,133), FIFA said.

European clubs took the lion’s share with English clubs receiving $5,992,533 between them.

The amounts are based on the number of players each club sent to the World Cup and on the number of days spent at the tournament.


Bayern Munich of course are still complaining because they claim what they received for Arjen Robben does not cover his salary. Perhaps true but do they also consider the increase in value they have received from other players of theirs who starred in the World Cup? He is not a Bayern player but Werder Bremen surely received a lot more money in selling Mesut Ozil to Real Madrid after his excellent World Cup. I get tired of clubs, especially Bayern Munich, constantly complaining about when their players go out on international duty, as is typical for Bayern all they do is complain without noting the benefit they also receive from having national team players.


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SuperEagle
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I suppose this was a compromise FIFA came up with to keep the clubs happy and most clubs do seem satisfied with this although Bayern are the ones complaining. I just do not know if that is because they have decided to take the lead on this subject and speak out for other clubs or whether as manzanares implies Bayern are just a sour bunch.
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libero
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You are correct SuperEagle,

Compensation was agreed in a 2008 peace deal between FIFA, UEFA and European clubs which saw them drop lawsuits for players being injured on international duty.

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=a...a-wcup-payments

Apparently these payments began just after Euro 2008, so it is not just FIFA but also UEFA involved in this.

As for Bayern Munich still complaining, well that is that club's nature isn't it?

According to the link, MLS clubs received $400K+, but I am assuming under the league's single entity structure that went to the league and not the specific clubs. Anybody know for sure?
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Merengue
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Knowing the big European clubs if they are getting this money from FIFA and UEFA what is to stop them from asking for money from CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, CAF and the AFC for using their players during the Copa America, Gold Cup, African nations Cup and the Asian Cup? The problem is those confederations, unlike FIFA and UEFA, do not have that much money and need their confederation national team tournament to fund their other competitions.
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raconteur
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Merengue,Jan 7 2011
09:58 AM
Knowing the big European clubs if they are getting this money from FIFA and UEFA what is to stop them from asking for money from CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, CAF and the AFC for using their players during the Copa America, Gold Cup, African nations Cup and the Asian Cup? The problem is those confederations, unlike FIFA and UEFA, do not have that much money and need their confederation national team tournament to fund their other competitions.

You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip Merengue so I imagine they will not even attempt to collect from those poorer confederations. I had not known about these payments before either but when you think about it Bayern may have a point. Instead of paying all this money to the clubs, why not use some or all of it to buy insurance policies to cover situations such as Robben's where a player suffers an injury in a national team event and consequently misses a significant amount of time with his club?
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Manzanares
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You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip Merengue so I imagine they will not even attempt to collect from those poorer confederations. I had not known about these payments before either but when you think about it Bayern may have a point. Instead of paying all this money to the clubs, why not use some or all of it to buy insurance policies to cover situations such as Robben's where a player suffers an injury in a national team event and consequently misses a significant amount of time with his club?


That is a good point, use some of those funds, which are supposed to increase for 2014 and buy some insurance coverage for players on international duty. That is a good way for FIFA to satisfy the clubs' anger over losing players to prolonged injuries.
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Onslow
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That is an intriguing proposal and as you say one way to satisfy the big European clubs, much as UEFA did by upping the prize money in the Champions league to stave off the potential of a breakaway Euro League being formed.

There are some wise heads within FIFA, they get their share of criticism, and deservedly so, but what they are are master politicians. And they know how to mollify their constituents.
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Onslow,Jan 14 2011
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That is an intriguing proposal and as you say one way to satisfy the big European clubs, much as UEFA did by upping the prize money in the Champions league to stave off the potential of a breakaway Euro League being formed.

There are some wise heads within FIFA, they get their share of criticism, and deservedly so, but what they are are master politicians. And they know how to mollify their constituents.

Spot on Onslow! For all their faults, FIFA's bosses do know how to politic and that is what this scheme to repay clubs for using their players in the World Cup is all about.
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Johnbuildr
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Extremely interesting thread here, which I am just now discovering. Never heard of such payments by FIFA before now either. Seems like it could lead to all kinds of problems and huge expense down the road.

Two different issues here though. The possibilty of injury issue can relatively easily be handled by insurance, as ranconteur quickly pointed out. Hard to believe FIFA and/or the clubs have not already looked into that, particularly for key players.

And, Manzanares' very astute point about the very real, however intangible, benefit to the clubs from their stars gaining world wide instant stardom, or much increased stardom, thus significant value added, is a great point. But how will they ever quantify that?

In any case, it is very easy to see this becoming a much bigger issue down the road now that the can of worms has been opened.
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raconteur
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Right John about two issues raised here. As we have both said the insurance issue should be easily resolvable particularly now with FIFA and UEFA paying money out to clubs for appearances at their tournaments.

The issue manzanares raised, however, is while hard to quantify, one which negates the clubs claim that they should be receiving more money for releasing their players for national team tournaments.
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raconteur,Jan 18 2011
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Right John about two issues raised here. As we have both said the insurance issue should be easily resolvable particularly now with FIFA and UEFA paying money out to clubs for appearances at their tournaments.

The issue manzanares raised, however, is while hard to quantify, one which negates the clubs claim that they should be receiving more money for releasing their players for national team tournaments.

Quite right. The clubs greatly benefit in general because the entire sport is raised to a fever pitch level every four years.
And, then, well beyond that, individual players right on down to the rank and file raise their value to themselves and their clubs on the grand stage when and where the whole world is watching.
The clubs have to know this, but greed has made many a man and group of men blind with ignorance to their own detriment.
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