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World Club Cup 2010
Topic Started: Oct 27 2010, 09:37 AM (1,083 Views)
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Sammy Maudlin,Dec 14 2010
05:47 PM
Full credit to TP Mazembe, they scored two nice goals on the break, defended well, got some good goalkeeping and let's also be honest benefited from some poor finishing by Internacional. But what a historic win and I think this is good for the event, maybe Internacional took them a little too lightly? After this result I am sure Inter Milan will not be taking Seongnam lightly!

I don't think Rafa has the luxury to take this match. Many people feel if Inter doesn't win, then Rafa will be gone. Inter is taking this tournament seriously, because they don't often make it to this event. Good Luck to them, but I feel the Unicorns will coming for them. I know their coach feels that Inter have a 60-70% chance of this match, but I feel they are trying to get Inter to lower their guard. Shall be very interesting indeed.
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Sammy Maudlin,Dec 14 2010
04:47 PM
Full credit to TP Mazembe, they scored two nice goals on the break, defended well, got some good goalkeeping and let's also be honest benefited from some poor finishing by Internacional.  But what a historic win and I think this is good for the event, maybe Internacional took them a little too lightly?  After this result I am sure Inter Milan will not be taking Seongnam lightly!

Yes Internacional had their opportunities but did not take their chances, either shooting directly at the goalie or misfiring all together. Occasionally the TP Mazembe goalkeeper was called on to make some good saves but mostly Internacional missed their shots. When that happens you do not deserve to win. TP Mazembe finished their chances well, also taking advantage of some poor marking by Bolivar and Indio on the first goal and even worse defending by Guinazu on the 2nd. But those goals also were the result of good play by TP Mazembe, a nice control with the outside of the foot and a volley into the upper corner for the first goal and several pedaladas which turned Guinazu all around before a well placed hard, low shot to the first post.

There will be a lot of disapointed Internacional fans both back in Porto Alegre and the many who made the trip to Abu Dhabi. There was a great atmopshere in the stadium with the large Internacional group plus the noisy TP Mazembe fans with their non stop music and dancing through the game. It is an atmosphere like that which makes me think this tournament is worth it and TP Mazembe's great run is showing us a team without name players but well coached and tactically disciplined can go far in a single elimination tournament.
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carioca,Dec 14 2010
11:15 PM
There will be a lot of disappointed Internacional fans back in Porto Alegre

I heard on the other side of town that the Grêmio faithful are partying like it's 1999

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"Gremio is the only unbeaten Gaucho club in the Club World Cup. Our warmest congratulations to TP Mazembe"
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robdog,Dec 14 2010
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carioca,Dec 14 2010
11:15 PM
There will be a lot of disappointed Internacional fans back in Porto Alegre

I heard on the other side of town that the Grêmio faithful are partying like it's 1999

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"Gremio is the only unbeaten Gaucho club in the Club World Cup. Our warmest congratulations to TP Mazembe"

:lol: Yes half of Porto Alegre was sad, the other half excited. But the Gremio representative is wrong, Gremio won the Intercontinental Cup in 1983 (when their star was current Gremio coach Renato Gaucho aka Renato Portaluppi) but lost it to Ajax in 1995.
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I guess Gremio are relying on the fact that in 1995 they lost on penalties to Ajax and are claiming they officially did not lose that game, something which always annoys me. If you lose in a penalty shootout you have lost the match!

We always knew the day would come when a non European or South American team would advance to the final and that day finally arrived yesterday. As others related Internacional had their chances but misfired and TP Mazembe took advantage of those misses and scored two nice goals. Another example of letting an opponent off the hook and ultimately paying the price for that. TP mazembe may be misisng their suspended best playe rbut they are showing like Greece and Once Caldas did in 1994 that you do not need name players to win major competitons, teamwork and intelligent play can take you far.

Some Italian friends of mine were having a good laugh about today's Inter Milan v Seongnam game, a matchup betwene an Italian and Korean team officiated by a referee named Moreno! :D Remember the 2002 World Cup!
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Who would have guessed getting Milito, Eto'o, Stankovic, Chivu and Julio Cesar back in the lineup would have helped Inter Milan! :D
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Manzanares,Dec 15 2010
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Who would have guessed getting Milito, Eto'o, Stankovic, Chivu and Julio Cesar back in the lineup would have helped Inter Milan! :D

How true! I would not count Inter out in the Italian league with those players returning to health. but Sneijder left the Seongnam game very early with an injury. That is not good news for Inter. By the way it is 2-0 Inter Milan after 70 minutes. How nice to see Pupi Zanetti score, that is not something he does often but what a nice goal it was for him too.

Gremio fans may be happy but as a South American I was pulling for Internacional to win this competition. I thought both D'Alessandro and Guinazu, each so important when Internacional won the Copa Libertadores, had miserable games yesterday vs TP Mazembe.
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3-0 to Inter Milan. A much easier win that expected as Seongnam previously looked like they could give Inter a good match but as noted, getting their starters back makes Inter such a different club. I too think they will still have something to say in both the Italian and European title races. And they will go into the final vs TP Mazembe as heavy favorites. Let's see if lightning strikes three times for Mazembe. Sneijder's injury is not good news but today's game was won with Stankovic's early goal which unsettled the Koreans.

I agree about how poorly D'Alessandro and Guinazu played for Internacional yesterday. theye ach are two of the pillars upon which Inter's success has been built upon. With their poor play, Inter just were not the same team. But credit to Mazmebe for their tactical discipline and ability to put away the chances presented them. In Spanish there is a saying, which rhymes so it sound sbetetr than it doe sin English I think, that goals are not deserved, you have to make them. That describes Mazembe's win over Internacional, Inter had the ball and created opportunities but did not convert them, Mazembe did with their fewer chances in front of goal. Thus they deserved the win.
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Lalo,Dec 15 2010
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Manzanares,Dec 15 2010
03:12 PM
Who would have guessed getting Milito, Eto'o, Stankovic, Chivu and Julio Cesar back in the lineup would have helped Inter Milan!  :D

How true! I would not count Inter out in the Italian league with those players returning to health. but Sneijder left the Seongnam game very early with an injury. That is not good news for Inter. By the way it is 2-0 Inter Milan after 70 minutes. How nice to see Pupi Zanetti score, that is not something he does often but what a nice goal it was for him too.


Exactly, anybody counting Inter Milan out of both the scudetto and Champions League does so at their own risk. A healthy Inter will be a difficult team to beat the rest of the season.

Zanetti's goal today was a thing of beauty. I suggest searching for it on the net.
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raconteur,Dec 15 2010
02:10 PM
Exactly, anybody counting Inter Milan out of both the scudetto and Champions League does so at their own risk.  A healthy Inter will be a difficult team to beat the rest of the season.

Zanetti's goal today was a thing of beauty.  I suggest searching for it on the net.

You can put me in that category that is not counting on Inter to win the scudetto. Ok, they have one match in hand, but they are 13 points off the pace. They need the other teams to have a similar meltdown at the same time. I can't see 6 teams collapsing at once. Champions League is another story. I can see Inter rebounding & making a longer run in that tournament.

p.s....Milan have a +11 GD over Inter at the moment.
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Here is Zanetti's goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkqI0Hx93Ys

A fine back heel from Milito and an even better finish. At 37 he is still going strong!

I join an earlier comment that the quick goal by Inter by Stankovic after only 3 minutes is what determined this game. It shook Seongnam's confidence and gave Inter the lift they needed after their recent troubles. Sneijder leaving with an injury was a blow just before that but the goal brought them back from any doom and gloom.

As for Internacional losing to TP Mazembe, I concur with what some wrote, it became a question of finishing, Internacional created plenty of chances but could not finish, while Mazembe put their chances away. So we finally got the upset we knew was coming sooner or later. In a single elimination tournament you knew that day was coming, maybe it is surprising it did not happen beforehand? And yes both D'Alessandro and Guinazu had nightmare games. It just was not Internacional's night. Too bad for their many fans who made the trip, looked like that entire side of the stadium was covered with red clad fans. An impressive turnout from Internacional who were really craving the chance to become the first team to win two FIFA World Club Cups. But that will now have to wait for another year...
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We always knew the day would come when a non European or South American team would advance to the final and that day finally arrived yesterday. As others related Internacional had their chances but misfired and TP Mazembe took advantage of those misses and scored two nice goals. Another example of letting an opponent off the hook and ultimately paying the price for that. TP mazembe may be misisng their suspended best playe rbut they are showing like Greece and Once Caldas did in 1994 that you do not need name players to win major competitons, teamwork and intelligent play can take you far


Yes teamwork, organisation and good coaching have carried TP Mazembe far. I would add the experience they gained in last year's World Club Cup also helped them as TP Mazembe came into these games and played without any fear.

CAF, the African confederation now organises a parellel national team tournament to the African Nations Cup which is called the CHAN (Championship of African Nations) in which only domestically club based players can represent their national teams. DR Congo's team was essentially TP Mazembe and DR Congo beat Ghana in the final. So this is a battle tested team who have conquered African Cups at the club and national team level, and now they are making a name for themselves across the globe. It is a wonderful accomplishment for the well funded and organised club. Inter Milan will be favoured but TP Mazembe have shown they will not back down to anybody.
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SuperEagle,Dec 17 2010
02:26 AM
Inter Milan will be favoured but TP Mazembe have shown they will not back down to anybody.

I think TP Mazembe has new fans because everyone wants to see this:
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If you want to see more of Kidiaba, it looks like a Grêmio fan has created some creative images vs. Internacional enjoy

ps....I know on Big Soccer the posters are now rooting for TP Mazembe to pull off the unbelievable.
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Everyone loves an underdog and Mazembe are one of the biggest underdogs in recent major tournament history. And unlike dour Greece at Euro 2004, Mazembe seems to be winning over many neutral fans. I say look for Inter to do what they did vs Seongnam and come out eraly pressuring them hoping Mazembe will wilt. An early Inter goal and it could turn into a rout but if Mazembe hold on early on and defend as they did in their other two game shere, they can make it an interesting tactical matchup.
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Yogi,Dec 17 2010
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Everyone loves an underdog and Mazembe are one of the biggest underdogs in recent major tournament history. And unlike dour Greece at Euro 2004, Mazembe seems to be winning over many neutral fans. I say look for Inter to do what they did vs Seongnam and come out eraly pressuring them hoping Mazembe will wilt. An early Inter goal and it could turn into a rout but if Mazembe hold on early on and defend as they did in their other two game shere, they can make it an interesting tactical matchup.

I think there is something for African football, at both club and national team level to learn from TP Mazembe's success. Those are that you do not need stars to win importnat games but team work, good coaching and hard work on the field can take a team far. I would also add that Lamine Ndiaye is showing that an African coach can do well internationally, that signing expensive foreign nationals, mainly from Europe, to coach is not necessary to achieve success. And finally that stability and good off field organization are vital to doing well on field. If more African clubs and national federations would follow Mazembe's lead, the football in Africa would be much better off.
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