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Top-Rated Players of the Bundesliga (1963-2010); as determined by 'Kicker' magazine
Topic Started: Aug 13 2010, 08:10 AM (1,727 Views)
Johnbuildr
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Yeah, Beckenbauer had it all: speed, power, balance, timing, field vision, and to top it all off, consistency like few, if any, others. The kind of player that made others around him better and who refused to lose. Give him a lifetime rating of 1.5! :D
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PART FOUR

Top-Rated Goalkeepers



1963-64 1.83 Manfred PAUL
1964-65 1.76 Hans TILKOWSKI
1965-66 1.58 Sepp MAIER
1966-67 1.66 Horst WOLTER
1967-68 1.84 Horst WOLTER
1968-69 1.71 Volkmar GROSS
1969-70 1.85 Sepp MAIER
1970-71 2.00 Volker DANNER
1971-72 2.03 Norbert NIGBUR
1972-73 1.85 Bernd FRANKE
1973-74 1.88 Norbert NIGBUR
1974-75 2.00 Bernd FRANKE
1975-76 2.00 Rudi KARGUS
1976-77 1.65 Volkmar GROSS
1977-78 1.91 Ronnie HELLSTRÖM
1978-79 1.91 Dieter BURDENSKI
1979-80 2.11 Norbert NIGBUR
1980-81 2.13 Heinz-Josef KOITKA
1981-82 1.94 Bernd FRANKE
1982-83 2.00 Bernd FRANKE
1983-84 2.18 Harald SCHUMACHER
1984-85 2.38 Gerald EHRMANN
1985-86 2.35 Dieter BURDENSKI
1986-87 2.13 Uwe KAMPS
1987-88 2.38 Andreas KÖPKE
1988-89 2.42 Gerald EHRMANN
1989-90 2.50 Uli STEIN
1990-91 2.50 Uli STEIN
1991-92 2.32 Uli STEIN
1992-93 2.35 Uli STEIN
1993-94 2.39 Oliver KAHN
1994-95 2.71 Uli STEIN
1995-96 2.53 Georg KOCH
1996-97 2.55 Oliver KAHN
1997-98 2.69 Oliver KAHN
1998-99 2.63 Gintaras STAUCE
1999-00 2.67 Oliver KAHN
2000-01 2.75 Oliver KAHN
2001-02 2.66 Oliver KAHN
2002-03 2.66 Rein VAN DUIJNHOVEN
2003-04 2.74 Rein VAN DUIJNHOVEN
2004-05 2.58 Roman WEIDENFELLER
2005-06 2.65 Roman WEIDENFELLER
2006-07 2.61 Manuel NEUER
2007-08 2.62 Diego BENAGLIO
2008-09 2.67 Robert ENKE
2009-10 2.83 Heinz MÜLLER



1963-64

1.83 Manfred Paul
1.86 Hans Tilkowski
1.86 Hans Jäcker
1.90 Günter Sawitzki
1.90 Petar Radenkovic

1964-65

1.76 Hans Tilkowski
1.80 Wolfgang Fahrian
1.90 Horst Kirsch
1.96 Roland Wabra
2.00 Hans Jäcker

1965-66

1.58 Sepp Maier
1.71 Günter Bernard
1.80 Dr. Peter Kunter
1.85 Günter Sawitzki
1.86 Manfred Paul

1966-67

1.66 Horst Wolter
1.79 Sepp Maier
1.86 Hermann Ross
1.91 Siegfried Kessler
1.92 Petar Radenkovic

1967-68

1.84 Horst Wolter
1.85 Petar Radenkovic
1.85 Roland Wabra
1.90 Jürgen Rynio
2.03 Volkmar Danner

1968-69

1.71 Volkmar Gross
1.94 Manfred Manglitz
1.96 Jürgen Rynio
1.96 Horst Wolter
1.97 Gerhard Heinze

1969-70

1.85 Sepp Maier
1.88 Manfred Manglitz
2.03 Petar Radenkovic
2.05 Volkmar Gross
2.09 Norbert Nigbur

1970-71

2.00 Volker Danner
2.03 Norbert Nigbur
2.04 Dr. Peter Kunter
2.09 Volkmar Gross
2.09 Sepp Maier

1971-72

2.03 Norbert Nigbur
2.08 Bernd Franke
2.16 Dieter Burdenski
2.19 Dr. Peter Kunter
2.32 Gerhard Welz

1972-73

1.85 Bernd Franke
1.93 Günter Bernard
2.03 Gerhard Heinze
2.06 Norbert Nigbur
2.17 Dietmar Linders

1973-74

1.88 Norbert Nigbur
2.00 Franz-Josef Pauly
2.12 Dietmar Linders
2.18 Werner Scholz
2.19 Wilfried Woyke

1974-75

2.00 Bernd Franke
2.03 Ronnie Hellström
2.09 Sepp Maier
2.15 Werner Scholz
2.22 Gerhard Heinze

1975-76

2.00 Rudi Kargus
2.03 Bernd Franke
2.06 Sepp Maier
2.09 Dieter Burdenski
2.12 Ronnie Hellström

1976-77

1.65 Volkmar Gross
1.88 Bernd Franke
1.97 Norbert Nigbur
2.00 Dieter Burdenski
2.00 Dieter Ferner

1977-78

1.91 Ronnie Hellström
2.00 Dieter Burdenski
2.12 Norbert Nigbur
2.12 Helmut Roleder
2.13 Bernd Franke

1978-79

1.91 Dieter Burdenski
2.00 Ronnie Hellström
2.06 Norbert Nigbur
2.12 Uli Stein
2.26 Rudi Kargus

1979-80

2.11 Norbert Nigbur
2.12 Harald Schumacher
2.19 Bernd Franke
2.27 Ronnie Hellström
2.32 Helmut Roleder

1980-81

2.13 Heinz-Josef Koitka
2.15 Ronnie Hellström
2.21 Harald Schumacher
2.32 Gerhard Heinze
2.36 Rudi Kargus

1981-82

1.94 Bernd Franke
2.14 Rudi Wimmer
2.21 Dieter Burdenski
2.28 Ralf Zumdick
2.35 Eike Immel

1982-83

2.00 Bernd Franke
2.18 Dieter Burdenski
2.21 Rudi Kargus
2.21 Harald Schumacher
2.22 Jean-Marie Pfaff

1983-84

2.18 Harald Schumacher
2.20 Bernd Franke
2.24 Helmut Roleder
2.26 Dieter Burdenski
2.32 Wolfgang Kneib

1984-85

2.38 Gerald Ehrmann
2.39 Uli Stein
2.47 Uwe Greiner
2.47 Uli Sude
2.48 Walter Junghans

1985-86

2.35 Dieter Burdenski
2.41 Eike Immel
2.50 Carsten Hallmann
2.50 Jean-Marie Pfaff
2.52 Harald Schumacher

1986-87

2.13 Uwe Kamps
2.43 Uli Stein
2.55 Rudi Kargus
2.59 Rüdiger Vollborn
2.59 Wolfgang de Beer
2.59 Jean-Marie Pfaff

1987-88

2.38 Andreas Köpke
2.47 Uwe Kamps
2.55 Uli Stein
2.59 Eike Immel
2.59 Uwe Zimmermann

1988-89

2.42 Gerald Ehrmann
2.42 Andreas Köpke
2.47 Wolfgang de Beer
2.56 Uli Stein
2.59 Raimond Aumann

1989-90

2.50 Uli Stein
2.53 Rüdiger Vollborn
2.57 Gerald Ehrmann
2.62 Uwe Kamps
2.65 Richard Golz

1990-91

2.50 Uli Stein
2.52 Andreas Köpke
2.63 Jörg Schmadtke
2.64 Oliver Kahn
2.75 Wolfgang de Beer

1991-92

2.32 Uli Stein
2.35 Andreas Köpke
2.54 Bodo Illgner
2.63 Eike Immel
2.71 Gerald Ehrmann
2.71 Rüdiger Vollborn

1992-93

2.35 Uli Stein
2.50 Andreas Köpke
2.65 Stefan Klos
2.68 Oliver Kahn
2.73 Eike Immel

1993-94

2.39 Oliver Kahn
2.48 Bodo Illgner
2.50 Uli Stein
2.65 Andreas Köpke
2.70 Raimond Aumann

1994-95

2.71 Uli Stein
2.73 Bernd Meier
2.75 Andreas Köpke
2.79 Bernd Dreher
2.81 Uwe Kamps

1995-96

2.53 Georg Koch
2.55 Oliver Reck
2.59 Jens Lehmann
2.68 Dirk Heinen
2.72 Perry Bräutigam

1996-97

2.55 Oliver Kahn
2.66 Claus Reitmaier
2.70 Georg Koch
2.79 Uwe Gospodarek
2.82 Perry Bräutigam

1997-98

2.69 Oliver Kahn
2.73 Martin Pieckenhagen
2.80 Franz Wohlfahrt
2.81 Thomas Ernst
2.81 Uwe Kamps

1998-99

2.63 Gintaras Stauce
2.71 Oka Nikolov
2.74 Oliver Kahn
2.82 Richard Golz
2.83 Stefan Klos

1999-2000

2.67 Oliver Kahn
2.72 Jörg Butt
2.79 Dirk Heinen
2.86 Andreas Reinke
2.89 Daniel Hoffmann

2000-01

2.75 Oliver Kahn
2.82 Martin Pieckenhagen
2.84 Frank Rost
2.84 Georg Koch
2.86 Rein van Duijnhoven

2001-02

2.66 Oliver Kahn
2.69 Frank Rost
2.83 Jens Lehmann
2.88 Gabor Kiraly
2.90 Jörg Butt

2002-03

2.66 Rein van Duijnhoven
2.71 Tim Wiese
2.75 Timo Hildebrand
2.78 Simon Jentzsch
2.79 Frank Rost

2003-04

2.74 Rein van Duijnhoven
2.81 Timo Hildebrand
2.86 Oliver Kahn
2.89 Matthias Schober
2.94 Jörg Butt

2004-05

2.58 Roman Weidenfeller
2.78 Robert Enke
2.82 Dimo Wache
2.83 Rein van Duijnhoven
2.88 Simon Jentzsch

2005-06

2.65 Roman Weidenfeller
2.78 Frank Rost
2.79 Kasey Keller
2.79 Georg Koch
2.89 RobertEnke

2006-07

2.61 Manuel Neuer
2.76 Jaroslav Drobny
2.79 Raphael Schäfer
2.89 Timo Hildebrand
2.93 Roman Weidenfeller

2007-08

2.62 Diego Benaglio
2.62 René Adler
2.75 Robert Enke
2.84 Frank Rost
2.96 Markus Pröll

2008-09

2.67 Robert Enke
2.87 Diego Benaglio
2.91 Manuel Neuer
2.92 Jaroslav Drobny
2.95 René Adler

2009-10

2.83 Heinz Müller
2.84 Tim Wiese
2.85 Frank Rost
2.85 Jörg Butt
2.88 Jaroslav Drobny
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Some interesting lists you have compiled Gregoriak. I have a few comments and a question after reading them. The question is about Tony Woodcock who I see one season was listed as one of the top 5 highest rated midfielders in the Bundesliga at the start of the 1980s. I always viewed Woodcock as a striker and indeed that is where he played for Nottingham Forest before he signed for FC Koln and where he played for England too. I did not know, however, that in Germany Woodcock played in midfield.

So Franz Beckenbauer and Oliver kahn with 6 each are the players who most often won the yearly prize for being the highest rated player at their respective positions. but Uli Stein, a pretty good but far from great goalie, is right behind them, 5 times receiving the highest season ratings for a goalkeeper! And Sepp Maier only won the prize twice in his illustrious career. I think if you asked most people here to rate the top 10 goalkeepers of all time, almost all would include Maier somewhere in that top 10, none would have Stein there. I am assuming Stein benefited from playing during a period when Germany was not blessed with much goalkeeping talent.
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Onslow,Sep 5 2010
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Some interesting lists you have compiled Gregoriak.  I have  a few comments and a question after reading them.  The question is about Tony Woodcock who I see one season was listed as one of the top 5 highest rated midfielders in the Bundesliga at the start of the 1980s.  I always viewed Woodcock as a striker and indeed that is where he played for Nottingham Forest before he signed for FC Koln and where he played for England too.  I did not know, however, that in Germany Woodcock played in midfield. 

So Franz Beckenbauer and Oliver kahn with 6 each are the players who most often won the yearly prize for being the highest rated player at their respective positions.  but Uli Stein, a pretty good but far from great goalie, is right behind them, 5 times receiving the highest season ratings for a goalkeeper!  And Sepp Maier only won the  prize twice in his illustrious career.  I think if you asked most people here to rate the top 10 goalkeepers of all time, almost all would include Maier somewhere in that top 10, none would have Stein there.  I am assuming Stein benefited from playing during a period when Germany was not blessed with much goalkeeping talent.


I checked my Bundesliga facts book regarding the tactical lineups of Köln in the 1979-80 season and found that Woodcock - nominally - started 12 times as a left wing & 8 times as a left midfielder (he debuted for Köln on 8 December '79). Based on that, he should have been in the forwards category.

Köln's tactical scheme that season looked roughly like this:

---Woodcock-----------D.Müller----------Littbarski

--------Willmer----------------------H.Zimmermann
-------------------------Schuster

------Prestin-------Strack-----Cullmann----Konopka

------------------------Schumacher


Woodcock most likely was used as a support striker in the left midfield position. With Littbarski and Müller upfront, Woodcock may not have been that of an out-and-out striker, unlike perhaps to what he played at Forest. Thus he could have been considered either part of midfield or attack due to his supporting role.

'Kicker' rated Woodcock as 'international class' after the 1979-80 season in their 'ranking list of German football', but at that time the position was not specified for non-German players, thus we can't determine what position he was rated international class that season.

Uli Stein is a bit of an underrated goalkeeper. During the first half of the 1980s, he was overshadowed by Harald Schumacher among German goalkeepers, despite not being notably worse than him. Stein was part of the 1986 World Cup squad but would not accept being only the #2 goalkeeper behind Schumacher. He insulted Franz Beckenbauer in Mexico, calling him a "clown". He was thrown out of the national team and never called up again. If Stein had known that Schumacher himself would be thrown out of the national team only 6 months later (due to his book "Anpfiff"), he might have been more calm in Mexico. Stein would have been the dead cert no. 1 goalkeeper for Germany during the late-1980s, including the 1990 World Cup.

Had he kept the German goal in Italy 1990, his name would have been far more well-known outside of Germany and people wouldn't be surprised seeing him being the best-rated keeper of the Bundesliga for 5 times. He really was an outstandingly good goalkeeper for Eintracht Frankfurt and kept his level right to the mid-1990s.
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As John mentions Beckenbauer, not surprisingly, holds the mark for most times being rated the best at his position.  Look at 1966-7 through 1977-8, every year but one, (1967-8 with Joachim Base) the top rated defender was either Franz Beckenbauer or his national teammate Berti Vogts.  And even in the year where Base won, Vogts and Beckenbauer finished 2-3.  Now that is consistency.

I am a huge fan of both Franco Baresi and Gaetano Scirea but to me Beckenbauer was the best defender I ever saw play.




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Yeah, Beckenbauer had it all: speed, power, balance, timing, field vision, and to top it all off, consistency like few, if any, others. The kind of player that made others around him better and who refused to lose. Give him a lifetime rating of 1.5!  :D


I'm a great fan of Franz Beckenbauer myself.

Beckenbauer winning the ball for Germany in their own half to hit a pass with the outside of his right foot which led to Germany's first goal in the 1975 friendly Germany v Holland:

Germany v Holland 1975 - First goal

Beckenbauer's smooth, elegant and effortless way of defending. Watch how calm he exerts his style even in his own penalty box, totally assured of his ways:

Beckenbauer - The Art of Defending

Beckenbauer's fine chip during the 1974 World Cup final. Just imagine that had been a goal. You don't see players these days chipping the ball at freekicks anymore.

Beckenbauer Chip 1974 World Cup Final

And finally, testimony to Beckenbauer's greast offensive threat is this short clip from the 1970 World Cup. Again, just imagine he had scored after that fine solo:

Beckenbauer vs. Bulgaria 1970
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Many thanks for the memories of Beckenbauer's play that those clips provide, Gregoriak!
They also reminded me that I forgot perhaps the most descriptive adjective of his play: Smooth!
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Without question the best defender I've ever had the pleasure of seeing live (honourable mention to Scirea, Baresi, Maldini and Javier Zanetti).

For all of Beckenbauer's physical talents, his greatest strength in my view was remarkable vision and an almost unparalleled "footballing brain" which allowed him to nearly always anticipate play so as to position himself where he needed to be. As a result, he made very difficult plays look easy and gifted himself invaluable time on the ball.
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John and ursus have said it all about Beckenbauer, smooth, intelligent, well positioned, great vison. He always looked to me like someone who did not even break a sweat even when covering a lot of ground on the field. There is a reason most ratings of the world's best players usually have him as the highest rated defender.
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