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| rosarino | Dec 4 2009, 11:52 PM Post #46 |
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No complaints from me about Argentina's group, you have an inconsistent Nigeria, a South Korea who do not travel well and a Greece who struggles to score goals. If Argentina plays up to its capabilities it wins this group. I really like Gerardo Martino, the Paraguay coach who was a legend at my club so I've been following that team too and I think Paraguay has got to be happy with their draw too. Italy are the group favorites and New Zealand the weakest team in the group. If all goes well the match vs Slovakia will determine Paraguay's fate. Another Newells legend coachs Chile (Marcelo Bielsa) and I'll be following they too. Spain of course the power in that group and a defensively solid Switzerland the main rival for Chile in the fight for 2nd. Honduras has individual skill but a weak defense, I don't see them going far. Chile's quick passing and moveemnt can make alot of friends in this World Cup. And how great is it that Brazil finally gets a difficult group? Don't think they've had a tough one since Mexico 1970 or England 1966! |
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| Simon | Dec 5 2009, 03:45 AM Post #47 |
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Hey steady on, Alexao! I know Brazil have a special status in international football but it's only fair on the rest of us if they at least have to win a 6th World Cup before they start thinking about a 7th! Germany have never gone out at the group stage of a WC, though they have recently finished bottom of a couple of European Championship groups (2000 and 2004). They were knocked out of the first round of the WC back in 1938 by Switzerland, in the days when it was straight knockout. So did Dunga really make that crack about Brazil v Brazil B? Wow, talk about spicing things up! Does he not know what happened the last time Brazil and Portugal met in the WC? I'll bet Pele still has the bruises! |
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| Don Balon | Dec 5 2009, 10:17 AM Post #48 |
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These reflect my thoughts on Spain's group too. Accessible but a difficult path follows for Spain. But nobody ever said winning a World Cup was easy! Del Bosque and Ottmar Hitzfeld had some coaching battles in the past between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich now they can go at it gain with Spain and Switzerland. I think the Swiss could be a tricky opponent, they'll be strong defensively, remember @ Germany 2006 they went home without losing a match but I guess the question with them is always whether they can score goals. Chile has a team who did very well in qualifying and a well known coach of their own in Marcelo Bielsa. Not too many name players but I was reading some of the comments in the South American discussions here and many posters believe Chile plays very well collectively. So while Spain will be the clear favourites in this group, the matchs will not be a formality. As stated Honduras also has a history against Spain in World Cups and the son of that 1982 Honduran team, Anthony Costly is now a center forward on the current Honduran squad-Carlo Costly. As for a group of death, I tend to agree with those that say Brasil's group even with an expected weak North Korea is still the strongest based on the overall strength of the top 3 in that group. Germany's group may have 4 contenders to advance but other than top seed Germany I do not think any of the other 3 are as difficult as Brasil's main rivals Portugal and Ivory Coast. |
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| Winslow | Dec 5 2009, 12:02 PM Post #49 |
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It's interesting that Honduras winds up with Spain again after 28 years, but consider this: Greece waits 16 years to return to the World Cup, and gets thrown in with two of the same countries from its '94 group, Argentina and Nigeria. (The third was Bulgaria.) How's that for a coincidence? Rosarino should be happy with this draw--Argentina looks an excellent bet to get to the quarterfinals at least. |
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| Alexao | Dec 6 2009, 05:00 PM Post #50 |
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Haha, you are right Simon, thank you for the correction, I was getting a little ahead of myself, well there is 2010 then Brasil hosting 2014! This time there will not be another Maracanazo! Yes Pele probably still does have the bruises from that 1966 game when portugal helped kick him so badly he missed the rest of the 1966 World Cup, the only time I believe Brasil have failed to get out of the group stage. As for Dunga's comment, I actually never saw that attributed to him in any Brasilian website, I heard it on Spanish language radio so I am not 100% certain of its accuracy. One thing for sure is I do not expect Brasil to defeat Portugal as they did last season in a friendly 6x2! But I would settle for the same end result.
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| vince stravino | Dec 7 2009, 05:39 PM Post #51 |
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Ah, we all forget the Muses of the Off World-venue Cups of past? It will be one of upsets and drama if '78 Argentina and '02. I agree South Africa won't advance. Mexico is gonna be a tough out in this Cup. I just feel it. Australia will be HUGE. North Korea and New Zealand will surprise...if only for a single match each. Both get points. Chile bows out passively. Definitely an African team (which one??) makes the semi-finals. I say gotta be a sub-Saharan. Algeria not! The time zone and climate favors European clubs. AFC must be so happy the Aussies signed on. As much as I respect South Korea and Japan, they don't seem to have the Kup Karma as of today. Ireland will make the second round...oh, I forgot...oops! |
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| SuperEagle | Dec 7 2009, 10:43 PM Post #52 |
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I read where in Argentina they were calling it their good luck they were placed in this group. Argentina and Nigeria are building up a rivalry, their 2 World Cup meetings in 94 and 02 both won by one goal margins by Argentina, the 96 and 08 Olympic Finals, one win for each country and the 05 U20 World Cup Final won by Argentina. From Nigeria's perspective this is a draw which gives the team a pretty good chance to advance. Argentina may be the top seed but they showed in qualifying they are far from invincible and their belief they are far superior to their rivals could backfire on them. Korea will I think be a tricky opponent, a team nearly as quick and strong as Nigeria with plenty of defensive organization but one who have trouble scoring goals. Greece, another team well organized defensively and opportunistic in front of goal. It is not an easy group but if Nigeria finishes its scoring chances it can advance. Amongst Africa's team, only Algeria has as favorable a draw as Nigeria. Ivory Coast we all know was placed in the "Group of Death" for the 2nd consecutive World Cup, Ghana was placed in another difficult group and so was Cameroon. Can each of them advance? Yes but their road looks to me more difficult than Nigeria's. |
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| raconteur | Dec 8 2009, 07:40 PM Post #53 |
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Strange how that works out isn't it? North Korea are making their first appearance since 1966 where they were eliminated in the quarterfinals by Portugal. So who is one of the North korean's group opponents? Portugal. By the way i was wondering if North Korea's 44 years between World Cup appearances [1966-2010] was a record? It barely beat the US' 40 year break from 1950-1990. But Bolivia also had a 44 year interim from 1950-1994. Yet that is not the record. Egypt with 54 years holds the record (1934-1990) |
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