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| libero | Jul 3 2008, 10:49 AM Post #1 |
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From the what the hell are they thinking file comes this, http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-...uters&type=lgns Raymond Domenech to stay on as France's coach! Merci FFF! Portugal are trying hard to pry Carlos Queiroz away from Alex Ferguson's hip and they may succeed. You can't expect Queiroz to remain as Ferguson's sidekick forever. |
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| raconteur | Jul 3 2008, 12:20 PM Post #2 |
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Thank you indeed to France's federation. Of course they're only doing this because they stupidly extended Domenech's contract prior to Euro 2008! |
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| gaviota | Jul 6 2008, 03:39 PM Post #3 |
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What stupidity by France. The rest of the world thanks the French federation for their idiocy! Spain are very close to signing Vicente Del Bosque to be it's national coach. I like the move as Del Bosque is a sensible guy who knows how to integrate a group of stars together. I also think he is smart enough to not change much of what Luis Aragones built. |
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| historyman | Jul 6 2008, 09:56 PM Post #4 |
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Bizarre, to say the least. He became a figure of fun throughout Europe, especially after he revealed that he uses astrological signs to help him pick the team! It's difficult to see how France can improve from here. |
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| Yogi | Jul 7 2008, 06:50 AM Post #5 |
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It is hard not to think that is the board of the French federation just being stubborn and hard headed, thinking, "We'll show the world we were correct in originally picking Domenech!" I see France entering a period like they had from 1990-1994 when they were down between the post Platini generation and the developemnt of the Zidane era group of players. |
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| rosarino | Jul 7 2008, 07:28 AM Post #6 |
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Getting to the 2006 World Cup Final gave Domenech a little more room for error than other coaches would have. We don't need to recite all his errors but how the guy failed to pick Trezeguet, Flamini and Mexes for this tournament is beyond belief. |
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| raconteur | Jul 7 2008, 04:31 PM Post #7 |
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That is exactly right rosarino. How France could decide to stay with Domeench after all his blunders is beyond belief. Especially when the guy is a public relations nightmare to boot! Of course as an Italy fan I am quite happy France are sticking with an inferior manager. ![]() I'm reading that Carlos Queiroz is closer than ever to going to coach Portugal but the Portuguese federation still needs to reach a severance agreement with Manchester United. That could still hold up a possible move by Queiroz. |
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| Winslow | Jul 11 2008, 08:51 AM Post #8 |
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I think this is what Libero meant to say!
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| libero | Jul 11 2008, 10:25 AM Post #9 |
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Haha! I am sure plenty of French fans are saying that right now! David Trezeguet certainly is, in announcing his international retirement he directly said it was because Domenech was staying on as France's coach,
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| libero | Jul 11 2008, 10:27 AM Post #10 |
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Carlos Queiroz has signed a four year contract to coach Portugal, http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-...uters&type=lgns |
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| Mr. Pither | Jul 11 2008, 11:37 PM Post #11 |
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I was under the impression Queiroz was going to be Alex Ferguson's appointed successor when he eventually stepped down as Manchester United manager. Maybe Queiroz got tired of waiting? Bert van Marwijk, ex Feyenoord coach is succeeding Marco van Basten as the Netherlands' coach. There is plenty of speculation that van Marwijk's appointment will mean the return of his son in law Marc van Bommel to the Oranje. van Bommel had a falling out with van Basten but I thought Engelaar and De Jong became good central midfielders at Euro 2008 and I'd prefer if the aging van Bommel would concentrate on his club career with Bayern Munich. |
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| gaviota | Jul 14 2008, 10:15 AM Post #12 |
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I know the French character is often to be obstinate but that doesn't mean the football federation needs to be that way too. If there was one coach at Euro 2008 who you would expect, and probably deserved, to be fired it was Domenech. Instead he may end up being one of the few coaches at the tournament to continue in his position! Maybe the Manchester United fans here know more but I would think it still is possible Queiroz could become Ferguson's successor. He doesn't look like he's going to step down anytime soon and maybe Queiroz goes and coaches Portugal for a few years then returns to Manchester United when Ferguson is ready to retire? |
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| Simon | Jul 14 2008, 12:32 PM Post #13 |
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Gaviota, it's certainly possible but honestly your guess is as good as mine. I think Ferguson has hinted a couple of times that Queiroz should succeed him, but he's also been keen to emphasise that it's not his decision and that he doesn't want to be an unhealthy influence beyond his retirement, which you'd think would be hard to avoid if Queiroz is manager and Ferguson is still at Old Trafford in some capacity. The most important concern is that we get someone who upholds United's attacking principles and plenty of people detected Queiroz's influence at work when United adopted a cagier 4-5-1 a few season's back especially as he kept speaking admiringly of Chelsea's constant 1-0 wins. Thankfully that experiment was short-lived, normal service was resumed on the pitch and most people are now of the opinion that losing Queiroz is a blow. Former United heroes such as Steve Bruce, Mark Hughes and Roy Keane are all doing really well as managers but I'm not certain any is quite ready for the United job just yet. Maybe in 2 or 3 years when Fergie goes? As for France, it's bizarre. Maybe it's unfair of me, but I'd even hesitate to give Domenech much credit for WC 06. I thought the team set-up looked muddled and again, good players were overlooked making France look woeful in their group. As far as I could see, it was largely the individual genius of Zidane who carried them past Spain, Brazil and Portugal, and we should remember that Domenech's France were in all manner of trouble in qualifying before Zidane returned from retirement to bail them out. When we add that France nearly didn't qualify for Euro 2008, it just underlines Trezeguet's words quoted in libero's post - "in every other country they are wondering what the French are doing". |
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| Pepe | Jul 14 2008, 12:53 PM Post #14 |
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d'accord! It really does baffle the mind that Domenech is still in a job. I am with Simon, and I've read opinion pieces whch have said the same too, that senior members of the 2006 team, namely Zidane and Thuram are the ones who imposed themselves on the team and made the necessary tactical changes so that France improved once the elimination rounds of the World Cup begun. Simon, I am wondering what the Manchester United fans think of Queiroz leaving? I know you said he will be missed, but do they view his departure as a betrayal of the club or as something understandabale considering the circumstances that Ferguson isn't yet ready to leave? |
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| Simon | Jul 14 2008, 01:35 PM Post #15 |
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Well as it's the quatorze juillet, maybe the French could storm the FFF offices and spirit Domenech and co off to the nearest guillotine? Well as 5% of the earth's population are said to be Manchester United fans (though we can wonder how 'fan' is defined in these studies) I should probably tread carefully when speaking on behalf of them all! But I haven't heard anyone expressing any animosity towards Queiroz. His CV shows he's a tremendously respected person in football and we could say it's been an unusual privilege to have had someone like that as assistant manager for five years across two stints although as I said before at times it hasn't necessarily seemed too much of a privilege! He wasn't too popular at first but seems to have gained respect and certainly no-one now has any problem with the entertainment level at Old Trafford! Everyone thinks his leaving is understandable, the only questions surround who'll replace him and how big a loss he will be. |
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