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2018 Olympic hockey
Topic Started: Feb 11 2018, 03:04 AM (662 Views)
Yogi
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It was a spectacular hockey gold medal game. Germany were ever so close to winning. I really liked the pressing game they played and as against Sweden and Canada it also caused Russia troubles. But eventually I guess you could say talent won out but not after a very enjoyable title game. I too really enjoy international hockey and even without the NHL stars it was good to see some new faces that i was not acquainted with and some old faces who i once saw play in the NHL.

As for the late night/early morning viewing, I suppose we in the western hemisphere better get used to this as the next summer (Japan) and winter (China) Olympics will also be in Asia.
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ursus arctos
Feb 26 2018, 06:35 AM
Given the last two posts, I will just say that I enjoyed this Olympics more than any since we moved back to the US in 2010, and the primary reason for that was that I watched none of NBC's coverage, subsisting entirely on live streams from German and French television and Eurosport.

Virtually everything was live, there was much coverage of actual competition, and the navel-gazing jingoism was a fraction of what one gets on NBC (even though the German team was much more successful than that of the US).
Well, that was the way to watch it, ua, because NBC's evening prime time coverage sucked big time imo. BORING.

Then, last Saturday they ran a very long dull story on the 1988 dual between the Brians in figure skating , Boitano and Orser.. that was such old news and ran so long, but to make it worse they repeated the dang thing later in the day. What about showing some actual 2018 live or just taped events NBC????? And even the way they ran the evening telecasts was boring and disjointed. We gave up on it after several days of trying before we discovered the alternative coverages of various events.
Edited by Johnbuildr, Feb 28 2018, 05:56 AM.
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I can't help but think of the South Park movie anytime I see Brian Boitano's name!

I am guessing ursus has a VPN so he can access broadcaster's streams from other countries? As John pointed out the best coverage on the US is the alternative coverage NBC runs on their sister networks of other events. Less jingoism and less "up close & personal" stories like the 2 Brians story John discussed.
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I thought the CBC coverage this year was very mediocre. Maybe it was because it was on in the middle of the night, it was far goofier than I'm used to (a nightly snowball fight target contest, regular feature on food and K-Pop bands), but it felt like a lot of the A broadcast talent wasn't around. And they did a horrible job of using their multiple channels effectively. But I am always thankful I don't have to watch NBC. Though all of the Tara Lipinski/Johnny Weir Hunger Games memes made me laugh.

A Brian Boitano/Orser feature? Odd. That being said the best feature I think I saw was about 88 silver medal figure skater Elizabeth Manley who was sick and wasn't sure she could do her long skate. She was about to go to a meeting and tell them she couldn't skate. Then the mens' hockey coach Dave King (an assistant on this year's team) took his team to see her practice because "I needed my team to watch a real star. Thank you for inspiring my team." (I had never heard that story). Manley, who battled depression, weight problems and body issues (I'm sure competing against Katarina Witt and Debi Thomas your whole life really helped in that regard) felt like she had to skate. She won the long program and won a silver. There was a good Eddie the Eagles Edwards piece too, but thankfully not too much looking back and a definite focus on the current Games.

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Disappointing finish to the USA men's team...losing to Czech Republic in a shootout! But still very proud of the team's overall effort & advancing to the QFs!

What can I say about the USA women's team? FANTASTIC gold medal game v Canada...without question, the BEST hockey rivalry around! Just wish it had been decided in regulation or OT, and not in a shootout! Along with Chole Kim (oh, to be 17 again :P ), the USA hockey women winning gold was my favorite moment of the PyeongChang Games!
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Any word om 2022 plans for using NHL players in the Winter Olympics?
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Mar 5 2018, 11:27 AM
Any word om 2022 plans for using NHL players in the Winter Olympics?
None & don't expect anything until around 2020 or 2021! Frankly, would be surprised if the NHL re-joins the Olympics again...just a gut feeling.
GO GALAXY...5-Time MLS Cup Champs!!!!!
USA Soccer...WE WILL BE BACK IN THE WC IN 2022!!!
Colombia...VAMOS CAFETEROS!!!
Japan...Blue Samurai!!!
VAMOS MILLOS...15-time Colombian Champs!!!
GO URAWA...Red Diamonds of Nippon!!!
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Both the owners and players have an option to terminate the current Collective Bargaining Agreement in September 2019, and it is quite likely to come up in that context.

The size of the Chinese market may cause at least some of the owners to be more open to participation than they were this time around.
Edited by ursus arctos, Mar 6 2018, 06:42 PM.
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As I discussed at the start of the Olympics, SKA St. Petersburg is loaded and sent it’s entire roster and about six more guys who can’t get into the team to the Olympics. It had 2/3s of the Russian roster. But I didn’t really dig into why. I assumed, but Slava Malamud on twitter confirmed, that yes, SKA is Putin’s team and in his election year they are supposed to win. They have spent six times more than the salary cap (14 of the top 30 highest paid players, play for SKA) and have first right of refusal on any new player coming into the league.

Now CSKA is loaded too and since they’re the Army team, that would probably be okay, but everything is geared towards a SKA win. The rationale is that by loading a team “in the Soviet style” that helped them win the gold. Oleg Znaroks, the Olympic head coach, is also SKA’s head coach. I think they could have managed either way.

Anyway we are in the playoffs for the KHL and my team Severstal Cherepovets (I covered Moose Jaw v Severstal at a huge midget tournament years ago and grew rather fond of them) drew SKA. Should have been a cake-walk, but Cherepovets is an industrial steel town (Severstal meaning northern steel) and they produce the kind of gritty players that don’t lay down. And with SKA having a figurative Olympic hangover and apparently a literally post-Putin campaign party/rally hangover, Severstal were in danger of winning Game 1. They had a 2-1 third period lead, but were given 24 minutes in penalties to SKA’s 0 and SKA scored a power play goal in OT to win. SKA needed overtime to win Game 3 and this happens on SKA’s winning goal
https://twitter.com/severstalclub/status/971489307260223492

It’s clearly offside. It’s just too bad the KHL doesn’t have offside review like they do in the NHL. Oh, I’m being told they do have offside review. And they reviewed it. And the goal stood.

So I’m going to give the rest of the KHL playoffs a miss.

I would like to think that the NHL in the Olympics is possible in four years, but with another far east time zone and an NHL fronted World Cup in between, I’m sure the NHL likes the status quo. If the fans don’t care about losing players in Olympic years and if the fans support the World Cup (I’m just assuming it’s going to be a pointless joke again), then there’s no reason for the NHL to change.

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hobbes
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ursus arctos
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As that thread from Slava Illustrates, the Severstal Screw Job is going to go down in history.

Dynamo Berlin’s Stasi handlers must find this seriously inelegant and unprofessional
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I mean, I guess at least they didn't just spray the Severstal goalie with nerve agent or something...

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Mar 8 2018, 12:44 PM
I mean, I guess at least they didn't just spray the Severstal goalie with nerve agent or something...

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hobbes
Ouch!

I saw hobbes retweet that thread from Slava Malamud on my timeline this a.m. Even to someone like myself who is pretty ignorant of the laws of hockey, that goal looked blatantly offside. Where are they in the KHL playoffs? Any chance that publicity about this robbery of Severstal will lead to enough public outcry that even with Putin's influence, will he find it not worth it politically to so blatantly favor his local St. Petersburg club?

And does this favoritism extend to Zenit St petersburg in football? It would appear it doesn't as they have not been champions of Russia for several years now despite the amount of money they have expended onplayers and coaches.
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This is the first round. Nothing will change because Putin wants it to work out this way. He cares much more about hockey than football!thus the lack of similar support for Zenit (who must make do with Gazprom’s patronage)

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At least Vlad kept his shirt on there!
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Well surprise, surprise, surprise, Putin's SKA St Petersburg were knocked out in the Conference Finals (league semifinals) by CSKA Moscow who are now playing Ak Bars Kazan for the KHL championship, called the Gagarin Cup. Ak Bars won game 1 and today they are playing game 2.
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