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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 11 2012, 05:42 AM (565 Views) | |
| Mediterranea | Jan 11 2012, 05:42 AM Post #1 |
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I was wondering if there were any Slovene/Slovenian speakers and Bulgarian speakers who could describe how well they understand Slovianski and how similar it is to their languages. Slovenia and Bulgaria are the two Slavic countries I am most interested in visiting, but their languages are not commonly taught, so I was thinking Slovianski would be useful. A lot of Bulgarian words seem to be identical to Slovianski, but I'm not sure about Slovene. |
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| iopq | Jan 11 2012, 10:34 AM Post #2 |
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A Slovenian would understand more Slovianski than a Bulgarian this is because of the Slovianski case system and verb paradigm and the sound system/reflexes a lot of the words are shared in Slovianski with Russian and Bulgarian due to some OCS influence, though understanding Bulgarian for me is easier than Slovenian, though because Slovenian has some crazy features |
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Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general. Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr" | |
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| bandziol20 | Jan 11 2012, 11:15 AM Post #3 |
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I think Slovianski 1st rate words like mleko 'milk' should be understandable also in Slovene. By the way, I think it would be good to create some kind of tourist-book with basic phrases and idioms in Slovianski for non-Slavs.
Edited by bandziol20, Jan 11 2012, 11:16 AM.
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Glasovanje je čista gluposť. Voting is a pure nonsense. Pišem slovjansky. I write Slovianski. http://www.conlangs.fora.pl/index.php http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/dynamic_dictionary.html http://dict.interslavic.com/index.jsp | |
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| tellur | Jan 11 2012, 03:16 PM Post #4 |
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This idea has been suggested by more users. I have thought for a very long time about creating small tourist guide. Here there are tons of these very useful and interesting books and I personally got three so I know how to write it but the only things I'm missing is lots of time and knowledge how to create a pdf. But I think, that it's too soon for this project. MS isn't ready for this imo (even when we got the grammar and most of the vocabulary ready) Edited by tellur, Jan 11 2012, 04:44 PM.
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| nonik | Jan 11 2012, 05:26 PM Post #5 |
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I think it would be good to create some kind of tourist-book with basic phrases and idioms in Slovianski for non-Slavs. ................Vojtěch uže je imaje taku knigu s turistickimi izrečenijami, ali jest v NS, no to može byti legko prepisano i niejaki slova premienieni na lepšu verziju. |
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| IJzeren Jan | Jan 12 2012, 01:06 AM Post #6 |
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Since NS and SL have been growing closer and closer to each lately, it might be wise to concentrate on that first, and only after that concentrate on writing this kind of things. As you may know or not know, Slovianski is almost six years old now, and I have always (or at least: for a long time) held the view that the language was not yet ready for any serious publications and promoting. But I have a feeling that we are very close now, and right now, I think a compromise language between both projects is much more likely than about a year ago. There's lots of interesting stuff going on on FB, and undoubtedly some more to come. Obviously, the common base and the will to cooperate are there. I'd say, let's work out some issues first and see what happens. |
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| steeven | Jan 12 2012, 09:25 AM Post #7 |
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. Аллилуйя! |
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| Mediterranea | Jan 13 2012, 06:31 PM Post #8 |
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I'm looking forward to that compromise language! It would be a great investment to learn. |
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| Derian | Jun 24 2012, 12:54 PM Post #9 |
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I fail to see a point to this, really. Imagine a Frenchman who has learned a Slovianski greeting formula visiting a Slavic country and using that expression, which will at best only be somewhat similar to the expression in the local Slavic language, and obviously doing so in a "funny" accent and a distorting pronounciation. If by any chance he will be understood, he will get corrected by the native interlocutor and taught the proper greeting right away. A Slavic person will not only pronounce the expression way better, but also will be able - by using his mother tongue (as we imply he doesn't know Slovianski apart from the greeting formula) - to push the conversation forward where it makes his interlocutor realize that he simply uses a different Slavic language. |
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| Kozica | Jul 3 2012, 03:01 PM Post #10 |
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slovjany ne gusi i svoje narodne jezyki imajut. może nekto stvori turisticku knige dla ne-germanov? ne-romanov? hujostvo! |
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| tellur | Jul 3 2012, 03:37 PM Post #11 |
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Derian imaje pravdų. Jest to totalna glųposť stvarať medžuslověnsky za ne-Slověny. Kogdy sę Roman ili German počne učiť medžuslověnski, Slověn mu bųde razuměť i otvěti mu něčo vo svojom jazykě. I toj German prosto bųde na njego ględěť s otvorěnymi ustami i ne bųde razuměť jego slovom...Da, može to byť jakymi-takymi vratami do světa Slovjanov, no pro ne-Slověna bųde lěpši sę naučiť liboktory slověnsky język než medžuslověnsky. No na drugų stranų, medžuslověnsky može byť VEĽMI dobrojų pomočkojų pro nas Slověny. Komunikacija v takovom pripadě ne bųde jednostranna, no dvojstranna. Oba govorci si bųdųt razuměť, čo toj drugy imaje na mysli i čo hoče skazať i tako daľe... |
| My Interslavic shortly - no i/y disinction and o/e rule enforced (byti>biti x biti>biti, svežego x dobrogo), soft consonants ń, ĺ, ď, ť, ŕ, ě/e merged, ę->ja, no syllabic r/l (torg, deržava, volk, dolgi), tl/dl clusters preserved (midlo, metla), CroC, CloC, CreC, CleC (grod, glova, breg, mleko), 1st sg. ending -u, 3rd pl. ending ut/jat (delaju, čuju, molvju x delajut, čujut, molvjat). Basically, a heavy Western flavour with some Eastern elements. | |
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| nonik | Jul 4 2012, 07:10 AM Post #12 |
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hey, it is not my idea with turist book :)) but anyway, it is already done. |
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