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Adverbial participle forms in Slovio
Topic Started: Nov 4 2011, 04:28 PM (220 Views)
steeven
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iopq
Nov 4 2011, 02:26 PM
Do we have a construct for adverbial participles? We have the following
Adjectival participles:
Beguczi Czlovek - The Running Man
Adverbial participles for the past tense:
Czlovek ubegavszi od policiji bil zadrzsan - The man who was running from the police was apprehended
Now, how would we write "the soldiers run with guns blazing"
In Russian you'd say "бегут солдаты, стреляя на ходу"
do we have a similar construct?

;)
Slovio:

ADVERBIAL PARTICIPLES are formed in the following way.
-bsuo, -tsuo, -lsuo = active adverbial participles
-buo, -tuo, -luo = passive adverbial participles

Example (active):

Cxistibsuo on slusxal muzik. - Preparing to clean, he listened to music.
Cxistitsuo on slusxal muzik. - While cleaning, he listened to music.
Cxistilsuo on slusxal muzik. - Having cleaned, he listened to music.

Example (passive):

Cxistibuo on slusxal muzik. - Preparing to be cleaned, he listened to music.
Cxistituo on slusxal muzik. - While being cleaned, he listened to music.
Cxistiluo on slusxal muzik. - Having been cleaned, he listened to music.)

Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation:

1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic
2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?"

3. Avoid "conflicts"
www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar
www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon
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iopq
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that's also absolutely unintelligible to any slavic language speaker
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr"
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Eugeniusx
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steeven
Nov 4 2011, 09:33 PM
bandziol20
Nov 4 2011, 06:03 PM
BTW : Did I mention how much I dislike the Slovio morphology ? But to tell the truth some of solution of Slovianski aren't very pretty, either. Take for example idti, so prijdti and so on.
We all dislike Slovio morphology.
On the other hand, I don't have any problem with "idti" - because the "d" appears in the conjugation of the verb itself - in all of the Slavic languages, no?
(I originally had more difficulty becoming accustomed to the infinitive ending "-ti" - but only for a short time)
;)
Dear Mr. Steeven,

it was you, who on 28.12.2008 suggested for bettering Slovio to use the -uo ending instead of the -s ending. How would you call such behaviour in Slovianski?

V moj Slovio verzia "Slavianski Pigdin" ja potrebijm -s konec za "Adverbial Particples presens", to jest npr.: cxitat > cxitats i za "Past Adverbial Particples" -sxi konec, npr.: cxital > cxitalsxi.
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Eugeniusx
Nov 5 2011, 01:50 PM
Dear Mr. Steeven,
it was you, who on 28.12.2008 suggested for bettering Slovio to use the -uo ending instead of the -s ending. How would you call such behaviour in Slovianski?
V moj Slovio verzia "Slavianski Pigdin" ja potrebijm -s konec za "Adverbial Particples presens", to jest npr.: cxitat > cxitats i za "Past Adverbial Particples" -sxi konec, npr.: cxital > cxitalsxi.
Ah Eugeniusx. A solid voice from the past.
I was an avid supporter of Slovio ..................initially.
Then I discovered that 99.9999999% of Slavic speakers did not like Slovio at all.
So, I attempted to modify Slovio and make it a more "slavic" languages - one for which at least some reasonable percentage of the 99.9999999% would consider changing their minds. Thus, was Slovioski created.
But in the end, I, like 99.9999999% of Slavic speakers, came to recognise that an esperanto slavic would never be accepted.
Your "Slavianski Pidgin" is in that same boat.
Good idea, but the Slavic-speaking public simply was never going to buy into the program.
Of course, non-Slavic speakers prefer the esperanto version.
Perhaps that is why you enjoy it too?
Welcome back to the Slovianski forum.
;)
Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation:

1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic
2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?"

3. Avoid "conflicts"
www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar
www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon
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Moraczewski
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inb4 Slovio-holywar
"I nenít pochyby, že kdokoli chce a umí, může sobě stworiti jazyk krásný, bohatý, libozwučný a wšemožně dokonalý: ale jazyk takowý nebudě wíce národnim, alebrž osobním jazykem toho kdo jej sobě udělal".
František Palacký. Posudek o českém jazyku spisovném, 1831.

[čćч]
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Eugeniusx
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steeven
Nov 5 2011, 09:50 PM
Eugeniusx
Nov 5 2011, 01:50 PM
Dear Mr. Steeven,
it was you, who on 28.12.2008 suggested for bettering Slovio to use the -uo ending instead of the -s ending. How would you call such behaviour in Slovianski?
V moj Slovio verzia "Slavianski Pigdin" ja potrebijm -s konec za "Adverbial Particples presens", to jest npr.: cxitat > cxitats i za "Past Adverbial Particples" -sxi konec, npr.: cxital > cxitalsxi.
Ah Eugeniusx. A solid voice from the past.
I was an avid supporter of Slovio ..................initially.
Then I discovered that 99.9999999% of Slavic speakers did not like Slovio at all.
So, I attempted to modify Slovio and make it a more "slavic" languages - one for which at least some reasonable percentage of the 99.9999999% would consider changing their minds. Thus, was Slovioski created.
But in the end, I, like 99.9999999% of Slavic speakers, came to recognise that an esperanto slavic would never be accepted.
Your "Slavianski Pidgin" is in that same boat.
Good idea, but the Slavic-speaking public simply was never going to buy into the program.
Of course, non-Slavic speakers prefer the esperanto version.
Perhaps that is why you enjoy it too?
Welcome back to the Slovianski forum.
;)
Dear Mr. Steeven,

do you want to tell us that the inventor of Esperanto was a 0.0000001 Slav! What a big person you are and your followers, too ...
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steeven
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Eugeniusx
Nov 6 2011, 09:04 PM
do you want to tell us that the inventor of Esperanto was a 0.0000001 Slav!
Eugeniusx,
I believe Zamenhof, the creator of Esperanto, was Jewish.
Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation:

1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic
2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?"

3. Avoid "conflicts"
www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar
www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon
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