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LANGUAGE & GENETICS
Topic Started: Jan 27 2011, 04:03 AM (338 Views)
steeven
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Here is an interesting article about how linguistics can be backed up by genetics - and vice versa.
This was posted in the Slavic-Unity forum:


INDO-ARYAN AND SLAVIC LINGUISTIC AND GENETIC AFFINITIES PREDATE THE ORIGIN OF CEREAL FARMING
The Hindu Institute of Learning, Toronto, Canada

http://www.korenine.si/zborniki/zbornik08/indo_aryan.pdf
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"...Slovenian seems to be closer to Sanskrit than other Slavic languages is
important in different regards. From the linguistic point of view, Sanskrit - Slovenian -
Russian comparisons provide unexpected insights into etymology. For instance, while
working on this paper we were able to see many missing links that cannot be discovered
by comparing Sanskrit with Old Church Slavic
, as it is usually done in Indo-European
linguistics (Cf.: Meier-Brügger 2003) for the simple reason that old scriptures use quite
limited vocabulary. For instance, it is possible to see that the Russian verb ‘hljupat’ - ‘make
ugly noises while drinking’ can be linked to the Sanskrit compound ‘jalam-pā (pāti)’- ‘drink
water’ only after coming across the Slovenian compound verb ‘žlampati’ with the meaning
close to Russian. From the genetic point of view, this study of different degrees of language
resemblance can be inspiring for a research seeking to understand to what extent linguistic
affinities can be backed by genetic similarities....


"....Linguistic evidence suggests that the separation of the Indo-Aryans and the ancestors of
present day Slavs occurred prior to the innovation of the cereal farming in agriculture.

Hg R1a1-M17 lineage appears to have come to Europe, via the ancestors of the present
day Slavs, from the Indian sub-continent, before the spread of farming ~9000 years ago....

"....The coalescence of Hg R1a1, the most frequent genetic marker in Indo-Aryan and
Slavic populations, very likely occurred more than 100,000 years ago. Only if the most
recent common ancestor of such a large percentage of Indo-Aryans and the Slavs lived
more than 100,000 years ago, could the male population with this genetic marker grow
to such high absolute numbers
of 325 million men representing more than ~10 % of the
world's total male population.
Amazing to read and see (by charts) how Slovenian may be the Slavic language which retains the most similarities to indo-european - or, at least, to Sanskrit - and has become a more significant key than perhaps OCS!

Edited by steeven, Jan 27 2011, 04:25 AM.
Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation:

1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic
2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?"

3. Avoid "conflicts"
www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar
www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon
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steeven
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:) :o ;)
Edited by steeven, Jun 18 2012, 02:02 AM.
Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation:

1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic
2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?"

3. Avoid "conflicts"
www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar
www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon
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Moraczewski
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Looks like pseudo-science. Хлюпать is rather an onomatopoeic word, it's absolutely groundless to compare it with some sanskrit word.
Edited by Moraczewski, Jun 14 2012, 09:25 AM.
"I nenít pochyby, že kdokoli chce a umí, může sobě stworiti jazyk krásný, bohatý, libozwučný a wšemožně dokonalý: ale jazyk takowý nebudě wíce národnim, alebrž osobním jazykem toho kdo jej sobě udělal".
František Palacký. Posudek o českém jazyku spisovném, 1831.

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iopq
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Moraczewski
Jun 14 2012, 09:24 AM
Looks like pseudo-science. Хлюпать is rather an onomatopoeic word, it's absolutely groundless to compare it with some sanskrit word.
exactly
the entire thing is :huh:
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr"
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bandziol20
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I think Slovene žlampati goes from German schlappen as Polish żłopać 'to drink eagerly'.
Glasovanje je čista gluposť. Voting is a pure nonsense.
Pišem slovjansky. I write Slovianski.

http://www.conlangs.fora.pl/index.php
http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/dynamic_dictionary.html
http://dict.interslavic.com/index.jsp
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