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| Just one alphabet forever; It is allowed to mix alphabets, no-one cares if the result is unnatural | |
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| iopq | Nov 25 2010, 07:33 AM Post #121 |
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we've agreed that the official latin orthography is: puť/puťa ascii-ize at own risk |
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Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general. Sergij Žadan "Anarchy in the Ukr" | |
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| VladUkr | Oct 8 2011, 05:01 PM Post #122 |
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You can look at my variant of 2 alphabets and the "united alphabet" (green letters) I think it is the best variant of alphabet, isn't it? the first letter is latinic, than comes cyrillic and [english transcription] Edited by VladUkr, Oct 8 2011, 05:04 PM.
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| steeven | Oct 8 2011, 08:34 PM Post #123 |
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For me it is simplest to use either Serbian or Russian Cyrillic Alphabets - and either the Czech or Serbian Latin Alphabets - all of these are available on Microsoft Operating Systems - and additional letters/bukvi can be added as "special keys" (like ď ľ & ľ ). If you are computer competent, of course, special keyboards can be added; but most people I work with are not very computer competent - especially if they are older than, say, 45 - 50 years old.
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| IJzeren Jan | Oct 9 2011, 08:46 AM Post #124 |
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Vladko: you're not the first to propose a Latin/Cyrillic hybrid orthography. Jan Herkeľ already proposed using ш and ч for š and č in his Pan-Slavic alphabet (but weird enough, not ж). Another example is the Slavica alphabet. I tried something like that myself as well a few years ago: A Б Ц Ч D E Ф Г Х I J K L M N O П R S Ш T U V Z Ж Ь The reasoning:
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| VladUkr | Dec 23 2011, 08:48 PM Post #125 |
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Why arbitrary? I can explain your choise, because it's quite right: Z is better because З=3 (three) D is better because when we write (don't type) letter д it looks like g Г - the same reason Ф - L arbitrary (I think it's better Ф - Л) Edited by VladUkr, Dec 23 2011, 08:51 PM.
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| IJzeren Jan | Dec 24 2011, 03:39 PM Post #126 |
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Yes indeed. Z is not only better because of 3=three, but also because in OCS this character also looked more like Z. In the case of Z, Ф and Г I also thought of Greek. Only in the case of L/Л the choice is really hard! ![]() My own personal favourite would actually be Greek Λ (also used for Л in some Cyrillic fonts and in handwriting) [čćч] |
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| tellur | Dec 26 2011, 10:20 AM Post #127 |
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I can understand other reasons but What type of reasoning is this? A must be Latin because its Cyrillic equivalent has got another value in Latin but B must be Cyrrilic because its Latin equivalent has got another value in Cyrillic. Maybe you could specify this value thing? Which value do you mean? Unicode value, phonetic value...? |
| My Interslavic shortly - no i/y disinction and o/e rule enforced (byti>biti x biti>biti, svežego x dobrogo), soft consonants ń, ĺ, ď, ť, ŕ, ě/e merged, ę->ja, no syllabic r/l (torg, deržava, volk, dolgi), tl/dl clusters preserved (midlo, metla), CroC, CloC, CreC, CleC (grod, glova, breg, mleko), 1st sg. ending -u, 3rd pl. ending ut/jat (delaju, čuju, molvju x delajut, čujut, molvjat). Basically, a heavy Western flavour with some Eastern elements. | |
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| IJzeren Jan | Dec 26 2011, 11:11 AM Post #128 |
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Oh, that's quite simple. It has nothing to do with Unicode values or somesuch. But: B (В) in Latin [ b ], in Cyrillic [ v ] P (Р) in Latin [ p ], in Cyrillic [ r ] etc. That's what I meant by "two different values". So V and П can't be misread. [čćч] |
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| tellur | Dec 26 2011, 11:19 AM Post #129 |
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Aha! Now I understand
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| My Interslavic shortly - no i/y disinction and o/e rule enforced (byti>biti x biti>biti, svežego x dobrogo), soft consonants ń, ĺ, ď, ť, ŕ, ě/e merged, ę->ja, no syllabic r/l (torg, deržava, volk, dolgi), tl/dl clusters preserved (midlo, metla), CroC, CloC, CreC, CleC (grod, glova, breg, mleko), 1st sg. ending -u, 3rd pl. ending ut/jat (delaju, čuju, molvju x delajut, čujut, molvjat). Basically, a heavy Western flavour with some Eastern elements. | |
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