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| Derian | Jul 28 2010, 11:12 AM Post #1 |
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For most of us the answer will be our native language, for non-Slavs it will be their best mastered Slavic language. Perhaps in some years time, one would also have to include Slovianski in the poll options Who knows.
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| Ethefor | Jul 28 2010, 11:36 AM Post #2 |
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My primary Slavic language is Polish. |
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| steeven | Jul 29 2010, 08:37 PM Post #3 |
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My answer to this question is extended: My "first" language was Polish....and French. But I never studied Polish writing and spelling formally until I was about 14 years old; and I never really learned it well (since communicating in S-U and now with our office in Poland, I am improving daily). I was then living in US, Britain and Switzerland. I am absolutely fluent in English. By 14 years old , however, I had been in studying Russian and finally lived and went to University in Russia (St. Petersburg), becoming fluent in Russian speech, writing, etc. - including Russian legal language (I studied law there). However, I am no longer fluent in Russian speaking! - Maybe 70-80% I can still understand Russian reasonably well - unless the speaker has an unusual accent or does not speak his/her words clearly (especially uneducated Russians who only speak "street"/"home" Russian). I can understand Polish - or what I call "Family Polish" - because I never learned "educated Polish" (my sons, who have studied and lived in Poland, speak and read and write Polish better than I do!!). In either case - Russian or Polish - I confuse these two languages often; especially now with Slovjanksi / Medzuslovjanski - and my daily communication with CZ/SK and HR/SR speakers. I visited Russian a few years ago and found that my Russian returned to nearly 100% proficiency in 9 days. But when I left Russia, I found that 100% proficiency waned to probably 70 - 80% ALSO IN 9 DAYS! My French is the same way. If I go to France or Switzerland, my French becomes fluent again in about 9 days and vice versa. My Family ignores my short-comings in speaking Polish; they say I speak a mixture of Polish, Russian and Slovak with a Russian accent!! They can understand me however, which truly shows the universality of our/my Slavic languages!! LOL The truth is, the "slovak" they hear is not "slovak" - it is "medžuslovjanski", because this is what I use when I speak with my evropejskje kolegi!! Finally, because I live in Southern California - San Diego, about 30 km from Mexico, Spanish is a necessity here - however, even here I do not speak Mexican Spanish, but rather a mixture of Mexican and - Castillian Spanish - which I learned as a young boy living summers in Spain....!! I also studied Mandarin Chinese at University, which I found to be an easy language - as long as the "tones" of the language can be heard (many people cannot hear the 4 main tones of Mandarin Chinese ... this can be a problem: for example: "MA" represents word for: 1. horse...........................kon' 2. scold .......................... korjati (Interslavic) 3. hemp (marijuana)........ konopje (Interslavic) 4. mother ....................... matka a 5th tone (neutral tone) also represents a question statement (jak "czy" ili "li"). So: MA MA MA MA yue MA? Did mother scold the horse about the marihuana? 难道母亲责骂有关大麻马? I studied in Amsterdam for several months - and I wanted to learn Dutch: but my Dutch friends and acquaintances wanted to improve their English - and so I never got the opportunity to learn Dutch - other than how to ask "Is this the bus to Loenen (on the Vecht)?" And even then, the bus driver would answer me in English!! {I think the Dutch want to keep Dutch a secret language ....} |
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| IJzeren Jan | Jul 29 2010, 09:11 PM Post #4 |
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Yeah, that's a common problem here in NL. The Dutch, I'd say, suffer from something I'd call "reverse nationalism" (something very contrary to Poland, where a lot of people seem are convinced that Poland is the middlepoint of the World, the Universe and Everything, at least as far as there is anything outside Poland at all). It boils down to the notion that the Netherlands are about the most insignificant country on Earth. Many Dutch simply can't imagine that for example a Dutch writer would ever win a Nobel Prize. Likewise, they genuinely cannot understand why on Earth a foreigner would ever want to learn Dutch. Which is not to say that the Dutch don't go crazy when the Netherlands play in World or European Football Championships. But that's a different thing. Any form of political nationalism (including the language-related) is looked upon with the utmost suspicion. Sure, xenophobia is gaining terrain here as well, but even our local brand of it is strangly devoid of any kind of patriotism, nationalism or chauvinism. |
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| Derian | Jul 31 2010, 04:12 PM Post #5 |
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@ Steeven Wow, what a resume!!! One could say that you're a native speaker of Slovianski. |
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| gossips | Jul 31 2010, 04:58 PM Post #6 |
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:lol: Hehehe. Native: Russian I tried to learn Czech, but with no success, now i find that Polish is very similar to Russian, but with strange orthography So now I began to learn Polish.
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Višla matka kuročka, S nej mali kuriati: "Ko-ko-ko, Ko-ko-ko, Nesimati hoditi daleko!" | |
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| IJzeren Jan | Jul 31 2010, 05:34 PM Post #7 |
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Now that I think of it, you should have included it right away. There are people here who are not Slavs and who don't know a Slavic language, but who are interested in Slovianski anyway, or who hope to use Slovianski as a starting point. Theoretically, their primary Slavic language IS Slovianski.
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Človeku, ktoromu je trudno s soboju samim, verojetno tož bude trudno s vsim inim. Slovianski - Словянски - Словјански [čćч] | |
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| steeven | Jul 31 2010, 06:44 PM Post #8 |
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LOL.... A few weeks ago I was in Chicago and gave a speech to a group of Polish speakers - in Polish. Because I have never learned to write Polish very well, I prepared my speech in Polish, but I used the Russian alphabet (with some minor changes for some letters - mainly the nasals). I could have used Slovianski alphabet as well, but I actually find that the cyrillic works best for me for Polish (sorry, Polish speakers, my secret is out on that - I still have challenges working with letter combinations like "czszydzazyski", whereas чшыджaзыски is much easier for me to read..... :rolleyes:
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| Mścisław | Sep 18 2010, 06:00 PM Post #9 |
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I am from Poland and I want to tell you that I do not like when the Slavs communicate in English (but I know that sometimes there is no other way). I'm shocked that here is nobody from the Ukraine or Belarus. Edited by Mścisław, Sep 18 2010, 06:02 PM.
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| bandziol20 | Sep 19 2010, 10:58 AM Post #10 |
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My first language is Polish, and a second one was Russian. |
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Glasovanje je čista gluposť. Voting is a pure nonsense. Pišem slovjansky. I write Slovianski. http://www.conlangs.fora.pl/index.php http://steen.free.fr/interslavic/dynamic_dictionary.html http://dict.interslavic.com/index.jsp | |
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| steeven | Sep 19 2010, 06:35 PM Post #11 |
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Dobrodošli! (Vitaj!)
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| Mścisław | Sep 19 2010, 07:44 PM Post #12 |
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If somebody speak polish and learn russian can join to bandziol20-steeven team? |
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| steeven | Sep 19 2010, 09:17 PM Post #13 |
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Ja ne vedelem / znalem že imališmo takej tipu "komandu"!!!
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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| Mścisław | Sep 19 2010, 09:20 PM Post #14 |
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"Komandu"? |
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| steeven | Sep 20 2010, 01:54 AM Post #15 |
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Vidij: KOMANDA |
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Please consider 3 levels of "tests" for word formulation: 1. Logical, Analytical or Commonly Slavic 2. That it "makes sense" - to the people (not just the creators) - "will the people both accept & use it?" 3. Avoid "conflicts" www.MEDŽUSLOVJANSKI.com - Grammar www.INTERSLAVIC.info - Lexicon | |
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