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vj -> vl' change
Topic Started: Mar 22 2008, 01:24 PM (282 Views)
iopq
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Gabriel said that changing labial + yod combinations would be complex because it has effects in every grammatical faucet of the language

but now that I think about it, I still write words like ostavjeni where j is from a shortenned i since the verb conjugates as ostaviš

since I'm writing the j anyway, wouldn't it make sense to write ostavleni since the voting supports it (3 votes)

this also affects pj, bj, mj, but only those that have the j there historically, not the ones that were put in there for phonetic reasons like slovjanski or on morpheme boundaries like objat'

so the resulting words would be konopl'a, kupl'a, čapl'a, zeml'a and so on
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
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voting supports it (3 votes)

And it wins by population?

I don't like the idea ('cause I'm West Slav, probably). But I also think it's unnecessary. Is current Slovianski understandable for Russians? If yes - look. Without vj -> vl' it's easier for West Slavs, it's easier for all non-Slavs, it's more similar to proto-Slavic... I think this change is just an unnecessary complicating the language.
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Ja misl'u, cho v N-standarte slovianskogo jazika mozhe bit' vj ili vl', jak avtor standarta reshit. N-standart, P-standart, ili mozhlivo ini standarti mnogo vazhni dl'a slovianskogo jazika. Ale ves slovianski mozhe imat' veliku svobodu esprimaciji. Jesli jest' dva varianta, dva varianta budut pravil'ni.

Jak pravil'no govorit' po ruski "g"? - jak tverda g ili mjagka h? Po standartu - tverdo, ale prezident Gorbachov govoril mjagko, po stavropol'skomu. Cho s togo? V jazike mogut bit' varianti, i v slovianskom mozhe bit' mnogo variantov.
Pravda jedina jest'
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Jasno, mogut bit' rozliczejne (rozliczne?) varjanti (tak, jak imame rozliczejne varianti dl'a 1st sg. v konjugaciji, s -(e)m ili s -(j)u). Ale misl'u, z'e ne je dobra idea tol'ko vj -> vl' jako jedin dobri varjant.

(Sorry for mistakes... :P)
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Rostislav
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Tak, rozlichne varianti. ('rozliczejne' ja tezh dobro rozumem, jak 'rozliczne' :) ). Teorija slovianskogo jest' mnogo vazhna, ale mi zhe imam mnogo teoriji. Xotenje, zhelanje komunikovat' na slovianskom tezh vazhno. Jesli mi budemo imat' chrezmerno tverdi normi v slovianskom, l'udi budut straxovat' komunikovat' s nami. Oni budut straxovat' delat' pogreshki.

L'udi, kto chitajut i rozumejut. Ne straxovajte, pishite, jak rozumejete. To bude interesno.
Pravda jedina jest'
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Vaša pravda, jesli nektori človek hče koristovat' drugi refleksi abo varjanti, to Slovianski je gibki.
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
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Vertaler skazal: На крајот на збор е битна: кораб(ъ)љ е возможно, корабј веќе не, а кораб е страшно.
Bo v c'omu žytti pomiž baletom i svobodoju zavždy potribno vybyraty svobodu, navit' jakščo ce čehoslovac'kyj general.
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