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| Question for RonR; modified chassis | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 3 2007, 04:33 PM (554 Views) | |
| sentsat71 | Jul 3 2007, 04:33 PM Post #1 |
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Have you seen the frame that comes with the AMT Boyd Coddington 32 Ford Coupe? Would that be a decent frame for modified using a Skeeter body, or other sedan type body from the early 30's? First time I saw that frame was the mid '70's with the old MPC '32 Ford Sedan Delivery "Keep on truckin'" series. still have that frame also, but needs to be straightened, one the big reasons the kit never got finished. Both kits have a more modern suspension, coil springs with radius rods (70's modern, that is) Just got my hands on a FRW skeeter body and this frame looks like a good candidate... thanks, Ed |
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| ronr | Jul 3 2007, 05:29 PM Post #2 |
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Ed, I am not familiar with that frame, But it should be easy to adapt to the type of suspension need for a Skeeter. A simple early Ford front end and Half springs on the rear. I have seen chassis shots with a buggy spring rear. For my personal use I like the front end out of the Revell `40 Ford coupe kit. The Amt `25 T kit that was reissued back a couple of years ago has a decent chassis also. The 2 Skeeters I am working on are useing Modified AMT `32 Ford Chassis. Z`ed front and rear. I`ll post a couple of pics later in the week. The Bodys I`m useing are a AMT `34 Ford coupe and a `36 Ford flatback sedan Resin body. Both are narrowed and the 36 is shortened. I will be useing Tires, Wheels, Half Springs & a QC from J&S and a lot of stuff I cast myself which can be Purchased from J&S. Including Rad.,Fuel Tank,Master cyl., and Bomber Seat. If I can be of any help at all just let me Know. By the way, Mine will be running about 93 inch wheelbase :ph43r: . That should make it carry the left front in the corners .Ron |
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| sentsat71 | Jul 3 2007, 06:19 PM Post #3 |
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Thanks, Ron... Appreciate the info... Have to get the camera fired up and drag out the frame and suspension parts for you to eyeball... My idea for using the Skeeter body is a modified similar to what ran southern MN and northern Iowa shortly before the sprint car frames became popular, somewhere around 1965-1968 era, which is just before I got started watching them. So needless to say when I get around to building it, it will be definitely a fantasy car. www.pilotraceways.com has a nice shot of what I have in mind at the top of their vintage tab, car and driver(Jim Matthews) from 1967. Ed :blink: |
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| skunkyg | Jul 4 2007, 04:43 PM Post #4 |
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I have the boyd 32 your talking about, and it would be really easy to convert it. I like the chopped body look! Its just mean looking! |
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A little rail rubbing never hurt nobody.!!!! GOOD OLE BOYS RACING!! FLORIDA DIVISION! | |
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| sentsat71 | Jul 5 2007, 05:47 PM Post #5 |
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Ron...here are a couple of shots of the frame and a few pieces of the suspension:![]() ![]() ![]() This is from the original MPC 32 Ford Sedan Delivery kit....pics may not show it, but the frame is warped....have not yet tried to tweak it lately....did attempt such back shortly after getting the kit, but only cracked the frame on one side. Ed |
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| skunkyg | Jul 6 2007, 10:43 AM Post #6 |
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This may sound crazy, But I put a frame in the microwave for like 20 seconds, Maybe more, but on a flat surface, the frame will flatten out. It worked fine. Ive done it on smaller parts with no problem. If you leave them in to long they will melt!!! remember that one. |
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| ronr | Jul 6 2007, 03:27 PM Post #7 |
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Ed, The chassis would make a good starting point for a early mod or Skeeter build. But the suspension would have to be done retro style. Shouldnt be hard to do though. Buggy spring on the front and half or buggy springs on the rear. The only way I have ever fixed a warped frame is by running it under hot water and tweaking it back. This chassis should be an excellent start for your project. |
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| zebm1 | Aug 1 2007, 06:17 PM Post #8 |
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Back in tha mid 70s Don Edmunds did a midget with an independent coil spring front end....wild looking little funny car, Offy powerplant, offset and tilted to tha left side of tha frame. But I don't think I ever saw an Edmunds sprinter with an independently coil sprung front end. :rolleyes: Had a wing behind tha driver's head......I think tha rear end waz independent also..... |
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| sentsat71 | Nov 28 2007, 05:04 PM Post #9 |
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Zeb... Saw one or two Edmunds sprints with coil over springs all around, back in the late 1970's. Not only was one a coil over, but the engine was one of the first aluminum blocks to be tried for short track racing, built by Ed Donavon (drag engines?). The engine had many teething problems with reliability, but over time things worked out in that department! Think Shaver Engines was one of the first to really make the aluminum block work....at least in the Southern Calif area... Also seem to remember another team using an Edmunds chassis to run complete coil over setup...just can no longer remember what team it was..... Ed |
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| zebm1 | Nov 28 2007, 06:12 PM Post #10 |
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Yu know sensat, that's tha same chassis that comes in the AMT American Graphitti 32 Deuce Coupe. I'm using it for supermod chassis conversion ( to full length leaf sprung quik-change rear axle). Using a 1930 J&S coupe. Just scored a bunch of GK sprint parts...looks like maybe a dozen kits worth. As I remember it, back in tha 60's coil springs were hard to control. Most of us just didn't know that much about spring rates and availability was pretty much restricted to passenger car (junkyard stuff). So we ran what we knew, leaf springs....stacks of them. kinda like 6-10 leaves to really stiffen tha rears. Stationwagon coils in tha right fronts ( for late models) . Ran a lotta leaf spring van front ends in modifieds too. Kinda like this un..... ![]() ![]() now most of these racers have been restored and up dated with coil-overs, but back in tha day....just shocks. Like this updated modified. ![]() here's a coupla that still run as they did..... ![]() They run this Invitational down in Zephyrhills, FL in November...missed it this year....darn, have to check tha web site. |
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| chevyracing572 | Dec 22 2007, 02:18 PM Post #11 |
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thats a cool little notchback vega in your first picture |
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