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| Yev | Mar 15 2012, 11:22 AM Post #61 |
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I think they rushed the ending because the last mission already takes two to three hours, the last 30 to 45 minutes or so being dialogue and cinematic without a point to save the game. I don't dislike the ending as much as a lot of others seem to. I also don't understand that whole 'BioWare betrayed their fans' outcry. It's their story and they get to end it however they choose. I'm glad they didn't just throw together a "and they all lived happily ever after," wrapped in a nice little bow. I'll have to check to see if they did to this, but it would have been nice if after beating the game and they return you to the ship before the last missions you get some codex entries explaining further what happened. |
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| Shades of Gray | Mar 15 2012, 08:16 PM Post #62 |
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Yeah, I beat it too. The ending doesn't piss me off like it seems to for everyone else. I would like more closure, but I'm okay with the general nature of the end. |
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| Incandescent | Mar 16 2012, 08:01 AM Post #63 |
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Definitely needs more closure in my opinion. There are several holes i want filled in. Ot doesn't bother me to the point of nerd rage like the rest of the internet but it annoys me more than it annous you two. SPOILERS (they are really tiny) reading around, apparently the end was supposed to be an infoctrination sequence. But, they couldn't figure out how to implement it properly and were in a rush to get the game out. Wierd how the fan theory of indoctrination lined up close. My main questions: -if each ending is supposed to be equally valid, why is there a glimpse of shepard surviving at the end of the destroy option? -why does my crew, which i take to earth for the final conflict, end up in the normandy when joker is trying to outrun the blast? -what happens to all the species now trapped in the sol system due to the exploded mass relay? The turians and quarians can't eat any food in that environment and the rest of the fleets are just as fucked in terms if being trapped far from their homelands. Did we save the galaxy just so a genophage cured krogan can get antsy and kill everyone on earth anyway and take the planet? -if the godkidreaper was in control of the citadel the whole time, why couldn't it open when sovereign attacked in the first damn place? Or just summom the reapers on it's own? -this one is more of a personal complaint: it sucks that we either doomed all the humans on the crew or garrus and tali when the normandy crashed on that planet. Either the flora and fauna are dextro amino based or leve amino based. Sadness. I guess synthesis could help, but who knows. -the stargazer post credits bit just confuses the hell oit of me. I assume it's there to say "everything turned out okay" but it's way to far in the future or lacks so much context that it doesn't help. |
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| Yev | Mar 16 2012, 08:44 AM Post #64 |
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The Stargazer was voiced by Buzz Aldrin, so I can't complain about that at all. Spoilers: Yeah, no matter what option you choose there are a lot of people stranded on Earth and the Turians and Quarians will likely die soon unless they are able to use the stores of food they brought to find a way to grow/mass produce it on Earth. Quarians are doubly fucked due to the need of suit maintenance and the consequences of a suit tear. Also, depending on your actions, you brought Rachni to Earth too, which will be fun afterwards, I guess. Also, if you chose the 'Destroy' option, there are pieces of reaper all over the Earth's surface. It's been shown that deactivated reapers still indoctrinate things around them. With no reapers left this will have less consequences, if any, but something might happen. If you cured the genophage, then yeah, Earth is the new krogan planet and humans are the new pyjak. Wrex would probably keep the Krogan in line for the rest of his lifespan, but after that you'd probably get a Wreav in charge. We aren't completely doomed though. There are some of the best minds of the humans, asari, turians, and salarians stranded on Earth. People there know how to make spaceships, how to terraform or settle Mars and the Moon, how to create FTL drives, etc. It'd be a long process, but we aren't starting from scratch. These don't bother me though. Even the Deus ex Machina of the Crucible couldn't prevent there from being serious consequences to the war. In the end, no matter the end, you were successful in your goal - the end of the reaper extinction cycle. I know some people are upset that this more or less definitively ended the series, but that doesn't bother me either. They've said all along that this is a trilogy. |
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| Incandescent | Mar 16 2012, 09:21 AM Post #65 |
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I'd be fine with the most catastrophic end possible as long as i got some doors definitivey closed on some of my issues. It's a testament to the story that it made me feel good/bad as certain things happened, but the end replaced a lot of emotion with confusion. |
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"What game was this, where every player on the board claimed the same pawn?" - Raziel "The coin is still turning..." -Kain "Cats are truly all powerful!" - sog Resident Marquis de Carabas Father of AC The Harbinger: Tiny, Adorable Predator (rapidly developing into a bitch and a half) A feeling of compassion warms you... A feeling of regret envelops you... A desire to cry wells up within you... A feeling of anger overcomes you... A feeling of Emptiness fills your heart... A destructive force stirs within you... My Inventory | |
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| Yev | Mar 19 2012, 09:45 AM Post #66 |
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Anyone else participate in Operation Goliath over the weekend? BioWare had a weekend multiplayer event where if the community killed 1,000,000 brutes then everyone who participated would get a prize. Also, if you were part of a squad that got a partial or full extraction against reapers on silver difficulty you'd get an additional prize. I was able to get a partial extraction with strangers, so I think I'm set there. They haven't announced whether everyone reached 1,000,000 brutes yet. Unfortunately they didn't have a running counter going. |
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| Incandescent | Mar 19 2012, 02:20 PM Post #67 |
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Cat and I were able to go team adept with randoms and kick ass with biotic explosions. we've gotten two extractions that I remember. Our luck didn't last beyond that I don't think. We killed many a brute on the failed subsequent runs however. |
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| Yev | Mar 19 2012, 03:27 PM Post #68 |
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I was going with the krogan soldier I unlocked. He's kind of a glass cannon against the reapers. You have a ton of health and armor but it doesn't stand up to prolonged barrages of marauder SMG fire, cannibal grenades, and ravager explosions. I can one-shot any of the non-elite mobs with a single melee attack, but tend to get taken down eventually, especially if I waste my time one-shotting the husks with a headbutt. Against Cerberus and the geth the krogan soldier tends to be much better. |
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| Yev | Mar 19 2012, 06:09 PM Post #69 |
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Operation Goliath was successful. 3,000,000 brutes killed. Rewards sent out 2pm tomorrow. Woo! |
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| Yev | Mar 19 2012, 11:20 PM Post #70 |
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This is pretty well done and makes a good argument about what happened at the end of the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck |
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| Dunkum | Mar 20 2012, 07:00 PM Post #71 |
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| Yev | Mar 21 2012, 11:40 AM Post #72 |
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I don't know where VG Cats is getting that. Then again, I'm not a member of the subset of fans that feels slighted. This is a statement that the cofounder of BioWare put out (and seems very different from a "fuck you").
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| The Imperial Navy | Mar 24 2012, 12:03 PM Post #73 |
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| Yev | Mar 26 2012, 10:47 PM Post #74 |
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| The Imperial Navy | Mar 28 2012, 09:22 AM Post #75 |
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| DangerousNate | Mar 28 2012, 11:06 AM Post #76 |
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I'll have you believing, truth can be deceiving
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Spoilers: The indoctrination theory is the one that ticks me off the most. |
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| Incandescent | Mar 28 2012, 12:36 PM Post #77 |
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i know, right? |
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| Yev | Mar 28 2012, 01:16 PM Post #78 |
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Oh? Why? I find it the best explanation. |
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| DangerousNate | Mar 28 2012, 09:29 PM Post #79 |
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(Contains spoilers, frankly if you haven't beaten mass effect 3 go do that before coming here) It may be the best explanation, but it would kind of tick me off that shepard would've just become a reaper and that makes all three choices useless. Thus, it's like you lose, and there's nothing you can do. Maybe I'm following this wrong or maybe I'm confused. Actually, if people want to get mad about their choices having no impact for the ending, heck, most of Mass Effect 3 was just basically: "Oh you did that, well this happened anyway. Oh you wanted Anderson on the council in 2? Well, Udina is on the council now in 3, sorry. You blew up the collector base in 2? Well, Cerberus got what it needed from it anyway. I think the only choice made from 2 that affected 3 the most was the choice with the Geth (destroy or rewrite the dissenters). Again though, I enjoyed the game(s) thoroughly, the ending didn't bother me too much, maybe if I beat it again with 100% galactic readiness it'll make a difference. |
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"Remember if you are going to do something stupid, at least do it intelligently." "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill Once a guy fell into a monocle making machine and made a spectacle of himself, while he was on fire. "God is good, but never dance in a small boat." -Mikey's dad "The sun shines and the day is beautiful even if there is a big raise in taxes." -Nev My Storage Container for Awards | |
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| Incandescent | Mar 29 2012, 05:10 AM Post #80 |
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Oh, i didn't see anything when i quoted your post so i didn't know you wrote something. |
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"What game was this, where every player on the board claimed the same pawn?" - Raziel "The coin is still turning..." -Kain "Cats are truly all powerful!" - sog Resident Marquis de Carabas Father of AC The Harbinger: Tiny, Adorable Predator (rapidly developing into a bitch and a half) A feeling of compassion warms you... A feeling of regret envelops you... A desire to cry wells up within you... A feeling of anger overcomes you... A feeling of Emptiness fills your heart... A destructive force stirs within you... My Inventory | |
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