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Topic Started: Nov 19 2004, 09:46 AM (2,544 Views)
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LetThemEatCake,Nov 22 2004
08:41 PM
they want us to stop "stirring the shit" well then they need to stop stirring it themselves

They want an apology from zo about the kill jews remark... well they got one... it's in the bored crisis thread...




I concur.

Cake, I've read through all 25 pages of the bored thread crisis. I still don't see Zo's apology but I'm going to take your word for it. Now I'll do my tiny little part and, as promised, admit my mistaken post at CP.

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Draconator,Nov 22 2004
09:28 PM
Bread is Dust of the stars now?

:huh:

no, dude, i'm a million times worse!

maybe you know me... sometimes i go by the name "open secret"










:D okay, i'm done, back to diplomacy.
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What do you get when you add cake to bread?

Future Marching Band Masters.
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04:35 PM
What do you get when you add cake to bread?

Future Marching Band Masters.

ken, that's wrong on sooo many levels
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LetThemEatCake,Nov 22 2004
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Draconator,Nov 22 2004
04:35 PM
What do you get when you add cake to bread?

Future Marching Band Masters.

ken, that's wrong on sooo many levels

:capnbob:
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2 guests, 10 members, 2 anonymous members
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why? why post this?
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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LetThemEatCake,Nov 22 2004
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Draconator,Nov 22 2004
04:35 PM
What do you get when you add cake to bread?

Future Marching Band Masters.

ken, that's wrong on sooo many levels

:capnbob:

hahahah
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Can you feel the love? :wacko:
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* sniff *
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09:42 PM
* sniff *

yes! yes! i AM wearing deodorant.
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I'll make this same post on CP...

Here's how I see it.

Members of the former D5, members of Xanterparts, want CP to be the way it was. Posting without fear. That no matter what they say, someone else will put each and every post under a microscpe, and point out any wrong, no matter how small the wrong words might be. Is this correct?

Members of CP, who were highly offended at Zo's posts in the Bored Thread, feel like they haven't received a proper apology from Zo and others. They feel like they have made posts at mine and Julie's expense. They feel like those have no respect for anyone, and that others have only their own interests in terms of CP, and no one else's. Is that correct?

Who are the ones promoting the fear in posting?
Who are the ones that are not showing respect for what they say, or taking no responsibility for what they post?

I know that I have said that everyone needs to look past this, call this whole issue a "push", and just move along. I still think that this is the best solution, but hell! I'll give one more try in finding out exactly what went wrong, and how this whole issue can be resolved.
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I'm pissed for having to read all 25 pages of that shitzophrenic hate-fest. I want my money back dagnabbit. Pfft ! I'm going back to tv soaps.
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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quixotic,Nov 22 2004
09:42 PM
* sniff *

yes! yes! i AM wearing deodorant.

:lol:
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Draconator,Nov 22 2004
09:44 PM
I'll make this same post on CP...

Here's how I see it.

Members of CP, who were highly offended at Zo's posts in the Bored Thread, feel like they haven't received a proper apology from Zo and others. They feel like they have made posts at mine and Julie's expense. They feel like those have no respect for anyone, and that others have only their own interests in terms of CP, and no one else's. Is that correct?

Who are the ones promoting the fear in posting?
Who are the ones that are not showing respect for what they say, or taking no responsibility for what they post?

I know that I have said that everyone needs to look past this, call this whole issue a "push", and just move along. I still think that this is the best solution, but hell! I'll give one more try in finding out exactly what went wrong, and how this whole issue can be resolved.

Correctamundo, O Fearless Leader !

I have no clue, really. Probably everyone, at least a little.

Third line. That is all.


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oh and ken, since I know I've got you here,

I was showed the new post at CP regarding OS's request, but it was made in slight error - she is not a member of the two-person Xanterparts Administrative Team.

Meaning, I don't know what the fuck to do about that new thread!!!
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To verify : is this the apology post, cake ?

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a few things to add

1) I know I'm guilty, but if I'm guilty enough to be compared to someone who indirectly killed 6 million people, then burn me or shove a stake through my heart or shove me in prison. Otherwise, some perspective might be cool.

2) Sure is a lot of other veiled hate speech going on in this thread.

3) No one search for a Nazgul post as he asked you to - I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT WEBCAM


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quixotic,Nov 22 2004
04:51 PM
To verify : is this the apology post, cake ?

The Great Zo
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a few things to add

1) I know I'm guilty, but if I'm guilty enough to be compared to someone who indirectly killed 6 million people, then burn me or shove a stake through my heart or shove me in prison. Otherwise, some perspective might be cool.

2) Sure is a lot of other veiled hate speech going on in this thread.

3) No one search for a Nazgul post as he asked you to - I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT WEBCAM

i think that, and another one

something about "what i said was tasteless and insensitive and i shouldn't have said it"

he pretty well spelled it out
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quixotic,Nov 22 2004
04:51 PM
To verify : is this the apology post, cake ?

The Great Zo
Oct 31 2004, 12:28 AM
Post #274
Look Down, Arroyo
Group: Bored Mafia
Posts: 3,071,744
Joined: April 1, 2002
From: CMU - Mount Pleasant, Michigan
Member No.: 277
Favorite Album:Hold Your Fire

a few things to add

1) I know I'm guilty, but if I'm guilty enough to be compared to someone who indirectly killed 6 million people, then burn me or shove a stake through my heart or shove me in prison. Otherwise, some perspective might be cool.

2) Sure is a lot of other veiled hate speech going on in this thread.

3) No one search for a Nazgul post as he asked you to - I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT WEBCAM

no, that wasn't it, although part of that is a (small) apology in part.

it was later on in the thread.. somewhere near page 18 perhaps?

The "apology" post I made was fairly lengthy. I also made it and templated it DIRECTLY in response to an hour long conversation I had with Ken in which he totally approved of what I was saying, in how I was apologizing and explaining things. So, yeah.
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The Great Zo,Nov 22 2004
09:49 PM
oh and ken, since I know I've got you here,

I was showed the new post at CP regarding OS's request, but it was made in slight error - she is not a member of the two-person Xanterparts Administrative Team.

Meaning, I don't know what the fuck to do about that new thread!!!

Zo, do you feel the same way? Meaning, that if there is a copy and paste on CP from here, that you or the other admin (I honestly don't know who it is), would report me to my webhost?
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i do remember that apology and it was quite long. and very very thought out
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.
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The Great Zo,Nov 22 2004
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quixotic,Nov 22 2004
04:51 PM
To verify : is this the apology post, cake ?
                                               
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  Oct 31 2004, 12:28 AM                       
Post #274                                                     
  Look Down, Arroyo
Group: Bored Mafia
Posts: 3,071,744
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From: CMU - Mount Pleasant, Michigan
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a few things to add

1) I know I'm guilty, but if I'm guilty enough to be compared to someone who indirectly killed 6 million people, then burn me or shove a stake through my heart or shove me in prison. Otherwise, some perspective might be cool.

2) Sure is a lot of other veiled hate speech going on in this thread.

3) No one search for a Nazgul post as he asked you to - I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT WEBCAM

no, that wasn't it, although part of that is a (small) apology in part.

it was later on in the thread.. somewhere near page 18 perhaps?

The "apology" post I made was fairly lengthy. I also made it and templated it DIRECTLY in response to an hour long conversation I had with Ken in which he totally approved of what I was saying, in how I was apologizing and explaining things. So, yeah.

We did this. Yup.
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oh and ken, since I know I've got you here,

I was showed the new post at CP regarding OS's request, but it was made in slight error - she is not a member of the two-person Xanterparts Administrative Team.

Meaning, I don't know what the fuck to do about that new thread!!!

Zo, do you feel the same way? Meaning, that if there is a copy and paste on CP from here, that you or the other admin (I honestly don't know who it is), would report me to my webhost?

Xan is the other admin, of course!

I do know that he and I aren't happy about what HON has done, in copying a thread over to CP. This is one of the "policing" issues that I am very , very unhappy about.

Xan and I are going to talk about this, brb.
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

exactly. thank you jessi
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

bread, you're cool with everyone and if anyone says any different I've got a few choice words for them.
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

bread, you're cool with everyone and if anyone says any different I've got a few choice words for them.

it hasn't been me directly, or really any of us directly, just that we feel like we've been shunned because of our group... starting with the closing of the whole thread, which i've already discussed with julie and i do understand her reasoning there.
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It's bad all around.


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yeah, well I'm too lazy to log in again
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oh and ken, since I know I've got you here,

I was showed the new post at CP regarding OS's request, but it was made in slight error - she is not a member of the two-person Xanterparts Administrative Team.

Meaning, I don't know what the fuck to do about that new thread!!!

Zo, do you feel the same way? Meaning, that if there is a copy and paste on CP from here, that you or the other admin (I honestly don't know who it is), would report me to my webhost?

Xan is the other admin, of course!

I do know that he and I aren't happy about what HON has done, in copying a thread over to CP. This is one of the "policing" issues that I am very , very unhappy about.

Xan and I are going to talk about this, brb.

If I don't respond right away, that's because I am cleaning the house. Julie's mom is coming in town tomorrow. Need to get house in order.
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I'm reading all the old drama I missed.
Giving me a headache
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wtf? when is this shit going to END?!
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

bread, you're cool with everyone and if anyone says any different I've got a few choice words for them.

it hasn't been me directly, or really any of us directly, just that we feel like we've been shunned because of our group... starting with the closing of the whole thread, which i've already discussed with julie and i do understand her reasoning there.

May I just say that some people get shunned everyday in real life and are more sensitive than most folks ?
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
05:09 PM
wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

hi len welcome to last week
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
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wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

when you get off your ass and give ken a blow job?
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
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wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

hi len welcome to last week

I know... wtf?

it's got to be about the fucking :drama: ...

fuckin' nimrods can't go a fuckin' week without the :drama: ...
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
10:09 PM
wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

So tell me to leave and I will.

:poke:
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here's a secret

UNCLICKABLE EMOTICON:

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Though, I still want to know why I'm blocked from XP's bored thread...

uncool. :mellow:
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ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

bread, you're cool with everyone and if anyone says any different I've got a few choice words for them.

it hasn't been me directly, or really any of us directly, just that we feel like we've been shunned because of our group... starting with the closing of the whole thread, which i've already discussed with julie and i do understand her reasoning there.

May I just say that some people get shunned everyday in real life and are more sensitive than most folks ?

hey, i never said we were the worst off... just saying that if we're going to fix stuff, i'll put an order in.
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
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wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

Len, in all due respect, unless EVERYONE eithers find common ground, or agrees to call this issue a push, where there is no concrete "winner", it won't end.

What I'm trying to do is give one more attempt to find a common ground. To get some sort of resolution. I'm stubborn. I want everyone to get along, and at the very least, respect each other. If this can't be achieved, then I for one, am willing just to accept that CP won't ever be the same, call the whole situation a push, realize that some will leave CP because of it, and just move along.

But, lets all give one more attempt to find a common factor as to what happened, admit mistakes, and move past it in agreement to do our best not to let it happen again. This needs to be done by everyone. It can't be brought back up two days later. I have no expectations on when the final outcome will happen. I thought I would just give it one more try.
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
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TheresNoBread,Nov 22 2004
09:56 PM
ken, a lot of us here, namely original BM members, (i hope i'm not speaking out of turn here) don't feel that we are at fault and really NEED to make any reparations (correct me if i'm wrong), but we do feel that we have in fact been wronged in this whole thing by being grouped into some particularly nasty finger-pointing and undeserved name-calling. i'm not even going to make a judgement call on what sparked this, i don't feel that i was even involved in that and, in fact, i'm not sure if i was in the thread when that occured. all i want is some respect, and a lot less prejudice based on where i do or don't post.

bread, you're cool with everyone and if anyone says any different I've got a few choice words for them.

it hasn't been me directly, or really any of us directly, just that we feel like we've been shunned because of our group... starting with the closing of the whole thread, which i've already discussed with julie and i do understand her reasoning there.

May I just say that some people get shunned everyday in real life and are more sensitive than most folks ?

hey, i never said we were the worst off... just saying that if we're going to fix stuff, i'll put an order in.

Make that a double
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
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wtf? when is this shit going to END?!

Len, in all due respect, unless EVERYONE eithers find common ground, or agrees to call this issue a push, where there is no concrete "winner", it won't end.

What I'm trying to do is give one more attempt to find a common ground. To get some sort of resolution. I'm stubborn. I want everyone to get along, and at the very least, respect each other. If this can't be achieved, then I for one, am willing just to accept that CP won't ever be the same, call the whole situation a push, realize that some will leave CP because of it, and just move along.

But, lets all give one more attempt to find a common factor as to what happened, admit mistakes, and move past it in agreement to do our best not to let it happen again. This needs to be done by everyone. It can't be brought back up two days later. I have no expectations on when the final outcome will happen. I thought I would just give it one more try.

I've said all I can on the subject, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to be baited by BT or anyone else on CP anymore. I'm tired of arguing semantics and common sense.

As far as I can tell, everyone has apologized at one point or another aside from Chas & BT... fine. They can think they are right all day long for the shitty things they said, but I'll disagree and leave it at that.

I'm just tired of people bringing up lame shit to argue about, I guess.
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Xan and I reached a rough decision, Ken, so here's your answer.

Although we support OS's ability to do as she wishes in certain issues, whether we agree with everything or not - in this case, her request to you was not one that the administration of XP will back. We won't be reporting anyone to any webhosts, or threatening to do so.

WITH THAT SAID, we would ask you Ken, that you would very strongly discourage the "policing" that people such as HON have done, especially when it crosses message boards from XP to CP. I feel that those actions were completed with malicious intent and would very much prefer that they no longer occur.

That sounded way more official than it had to. Wheee
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DarthLen,Nov 22 2004
05:22 PM
I've said all I can on the subject, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to be baited by BT or anyone else on CP anymore. I'm tired of arguing semantics and common sense.

As far as I can tell, everyone has apologized at one point or another aside from Chas & BT... fine. They can think they are right all day long for the shitty things they said, but I'll disagree and leave it at that.

I'm just tired of people bringing up lame shit to argue about, I guess.

Indeed.
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