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Hey, you're right! Let's destroy every sequel and every spinoff because we have the original, right?

Why do we need modern FPS? We have Wolfenstein 3D! Why do we need any game? We have Pong.
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We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die

I don't understand why dota 2 gets all that flack... really... it's just what dota needed - a clear and distinctive look and feel... most people are just too used to WC3 atmosphere to accept any changes... and some people just clearly don't know what they are talking about...

Btw what are your thoughts about spidey's reboot? I'll share mine after hearing yours =)

And I'd like to hear some general thoughts on dark knight rises if any of you saw it already (don't spoil anything though... just your opinion whether it's worth watchng or not) I'm thinking of watching it tomorrow.
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Jul 28 2012, 12:10 PM
Hey, you're right! Let's destroy every sequel and every spinoff because we have the original, right?

Why do we need modern FPS? We have Wolfenstein 3D! Why do we need any game? We have Pong.
So you straight out mean that you support some sort of imperialist pop culture, is that so? So you mean that all that matters is the fucking plastic, is that so? You think the new beats everything?

Hormone food > natural food?
Factories > Nature?
Dubstep > Instrumentalism?
Justin Bieber > Beethoven?
Graphix > Gameplay?
Diablo III > Diablo II?
WoW > Warcraft II?
Modern Warfare 2 > Call Of Duty 2?
LoL > DotA?

I just won't say no more. This arguement has ended..
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You took this from Dota to Hormone food. Generalizing much?
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Jul 28 2012, 09:46 AM
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Jul 28 2012, 09:38 AM
I'll stick to PSO
I'm assuming you'll be playing PSO 2 when it comes out?
But of course. I'll prolly disappear for a few weeks once it comes out in english.
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Is PSO good? Should I use my time on it?
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I love it, but It's quite different from most MMOs, so if I were you, I'd look at some gameplay videos before trying it.
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Jul 28 2012, 02:14 PM
And I'd like to hear some general thoughts on dark knight rises if any of you saw it already (don't spoil anything though... just your opinion whether it's worth watchng or not) I'm thinking of watching it tomorrow.
i saw it and i have to say that it was awesome.
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@Erenussocrates : this is the online game's business

@luffy24 : you're right about one thing : LoL is really cool when you play with friend...when they are not raging because you are noob...
But LoL does not require huge ressources , i have a "normal' pc and i can run it at 60 FPS at all high graphics , trust me , my pc is not a monster at all...more than 3 years i have it.

@CrossBreed Priscilla : PSO 2 has an official release for US/EU ? And this game looks pretty beautiful...i don't think i can run it , but who knows...From the gameplay videos i have seen : i looks like a mix of Monster Hunter 3 + S4 League ( arcade mode ) .
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Jul 28 2012, 12:04 PM
AoS genre is fine, but gazillion of games have been released after DotA, which is completely useless. Who cares about DotA 2 if there's a DotA anyway? Or who cares about LoL? That's like putting a different brand on the same product and hoping to sell it to the crowd. But know what? It works. Stupid crowd is stupid..

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Hey, you're right! Let's destroy every sequel and every spinoff because we have the original, right?

Why do we need modern FPS? We have Wolfenstein 3D! Why do we need any game? We have Pong.


You took this from AoS to whole gaming concept. Generalizing much?
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You're whole point is stupid. So what if some people like Dota 2 compared to Dota? They change the graphics, bugs, glitches, characters, I'm not quite sure what you have to bitch about. It's like saying you should only play Final Fantasy and not Star Ocean, because they're the same thing. They're both RPG's so they must be the same exact thing.


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AoS genre is fine, but gazillion of games have been released after DotA, which is completely useless. Who cares about DotA 2 if there's a DotA anyway? Or who cares about LoL? That's like putting a different brand on the same product and hoping to sell it to the crowd. But know what? It works. Stupid crowd is stupid..

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Hey, you're right! Let's destroy every sequel and every spinoff because we have the original, right?

Why do we need modern FPS? We have Wolfenstein 3D! Why do we need any game? We have Pong.


You took this from AoS to whole gaming concept. Generalizing much?
Hmm.... Well maybe I was wrong. Good thing you kept everything on the scale of... ooooooh.... Right...
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Jul 29 2012, 10:13 AM
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You're whole point is stupid. So what if some people like Dota 2 compared to Dota? They change the graphics, bugs, glitches, characters, I'm not quite sure what you have to bitch about. It's like saying you should only play Final Fantasy and not Star Ocean, because they're the same thing. They're both RPG's so they must be the same exact thing.
You cannot even call my point stupid without any kind of proper knowledge considering AoS genre. RPG genre and AoS are on way different scales. There are all different kinds of RPG flavors while there's only one about AoS. 2 or 3 (or whatever count one would wish) lanes, 2 or 3 towers on each lane, marching creeps, recipe items, jungle, river boss, one base for each team..
It's all the same concept on every fucking game. The sole differing things are the name, graphics, the look of the game menu and icon.. The sole differing thing is the brand.

Also I am not bitching about anything, and you don't have the right to call any two different kinds of RPG the same.

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Wezh Kazama
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You mad?

The things you just listed change the feel of the game quite a lot. All those things can look different and all fit into the games lore. You aren't taking into account the story behind the games, the characters, why they're fighting, etc. I use RPG's as an example because you could use them in this same very argument.

Not every single AoS game is the same, it's just you not looking at each individual game close enough.

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@Erenussocrates : Ok , let's make a end on it .

Do you know why it's always the same things ? ( Turret , 3 lanes , etc...)

Because it works !

5V5 ?

Because they have done researches , and the best for a comfortable and interesting game is 5 .


People don't like graphics ? They go to an another with better graphics .
People find there is not many characters on a game ? They go to an another with more chars.
Peole find a game too complicated ? Make this game easier .
ECT...

That how game designers think . That why game always are the same with some changes .
Why following the same model of game ?
Because time is money , the game designer have less and less imagination.
The public his changing .
The time is running fast .
They can't do a new revolutionary game , loosing time to design a new game .
Time is running fast . Gamers too.

You know the business of toys ?
It's the same thing.
You guys have to understand that a game cost money , and if it fails , they don't just say :"haha ! Let's make an another game , eheh , we will do better next time !"
No ! They fire people and loose dozen or millions of dollars .

That's why they prefer security to risks . Game which already works that a new type of game.
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Trying to figure out what everyone is arguing over @_@
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Kerle
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The claim that there is no reason to have LoL or HoN or DotA 2 since we have DotA.
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I understand the argument, but I said the same thing with Super Street Fighter VI and the Arcade Edition add in. Basically I couldn't see the point in an arcade edition coming out because all it looks like is that they added new characters in. Come to find out the game was slightly tweaked to adjust different variables in the game making it slightly better. The same case could be said with Dota. In coming out with a sequel it might not look like much has changed in the outside, but there could be changes on the inside that you wouldn't notice unless your looking for it.
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That's essentially the point I've been trying to get across though with little success.

Oh yeah, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale. Yay or Nay?
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Couldn't really care less about that game. It just shows how out of ideas Sony is right now.
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Interested in seeing the full roster and honestly that's about it.

What's with people having the Mtg colors in their sigs? o.O
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How does posting the response to a quiz make you feel like you're in a gang?
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If you look closely at the last sentence of each response , you can see who are your ennemies .
Adding the colours
Adding the fact we are in community
And Adding the sense of humor...it makes : "Feel like in a gang"

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And my point is to point out how close-minded that kind of thinking is.

Yes! A GANG! FEAR OUR INTERNET GANG!
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