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Grayvie
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You kidding? It would've been amazing writing if Kubo managed to make Ichigo win without overpowering Aizen... either through some tricky technique or somehow turning his powers against him... Though it is way out of Kubo's level... Did you read Dracula? A couple of inferior humans caused almost allpowerfull being flee in terror... this was frickingly amazing writing... Now that you think about in Hellsing Alucard mocks Kubo's style in his finall fight with Anderson...
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You just compared Aizen to Dracula? Yeah, I think I remember when Dracula shot a ball of energy and caused an explosion the size of a mountain. It wasn't feasible. He made Aizen so he was able to instantly revive pretty much anything. How is a character training in order to be able to surpass him (and still failing btw) bad?
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You seem to forget his Shikai, none has been able to break it up till now NONE so ofcourse he is overpowered

he just got pretty much stupid after the Hyogyaku

@gravie I would have hated that to be honest, if he did do that people wouldn't give any credits to Ichigo and just blame the PLOT why aizen lost. which sgn is doing with luffy vs crocodile fight
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Lies, Gin did it. Granted, he was the only one in the universe who knew how to, but that's still one person.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
yama did too after aizen stabbed him
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Yamamoto didn't know how to beat it, he could tell Aizen was actually there because of his reiatsu or something of the sort. Can't remember right now.
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You say he isn't overpowered compared to characters that can blow up whole planets? We're talking about Bleach. Name one character in Bleach that can do that, we aren't discussing in anime in general we're discussing him as a character of the Bleach universe.

Why did Aizen even want to kill everyone and everything (or whatever he was trying to do) it must not have been a very good plot point if i don't remember it

Btw, does anyone else wonder why almost every other arc begins with Ichigo gaining/regaining his shinigami powers? Whats up with that?
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Because he wanted to kill the Spirit King and take his place. It's about as good a motivation as wanting be the Pirate King or Hokage.


Also, only 2 arcs start like that. The very first one, and by the way you just said that, I guess the new one, as it hasn't been shown in the anime yet
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guys, you know what? after seeing so many posts and such a rather colorful and interesting discussion over bleach, somewhere, someway, somehow, i see a man wearing shades smiling, smirking or rather laughing his ass off.

but ill join the fun.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
i used to hate aizen because i thught he was overpowered with the hole five senses controling stuff but that ability wasnt even used the way i thought it would have been and beside all main villians in any anime are overpower the good guys until the last battle. aizens powers are no more overpowered than majin buu bein blown to peces and reforing like nothing ever happened, or blackbeard having two devil fruits and one of the strongest ones at that, or even madara having the powers he has (dont want to say what it is cause i dont feel like making a spoiler lol)
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@sgn15

The part about the team fighting Aizen alone and winning is complete bs, seeing as how Urahara, Yoruichi and Isshin didn't manage to defeat him even before he gained his butterfly powers.

Also, Urahara's intervention didn't render Ichigo's efforts useless because, if it weren't for him, Urahara's Kidou wouldn't have worked.

I get it, most of you hate Bleach. You just don't have to try and bash it every time someone says they like it, or that they think it's good. It's all just opinion. So just let other people enjoy it.
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just btw grayve...didn't kubo said bleach will go on for some more years?! i m pretty sure he did
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Why did Aizen even want to kill everyone and everything (or whatever he was trying to do) it must not have been a very good plot point if i don't remember it

Kubo actually sorta explained it... in the most ridiculous fashion...
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I remember I read some kind of interview where Kubo said he would do 2 arcs after Aizen's defeat one small one and one big... im thinking the small one is what we are having now in the manga so there is one more arc to come... And running it for years... I think he also said he wanted to launch another series in bleach's universe with different protagonist after bleach ends...
oh god... did Kubo actually call this new chapter "Swastika break"????? After Oda even changed Whitebeard's jolly roger so that manji wouldn't be confused with swastika??? O.o
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You do know that the swastika is a part of several religions, and doesn't just represent the Nazi movement, right? It's clearly the shape of Zangetsu's guard, so I don't really see what the problem with the title is.
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You did notice I used word "manji" in my previous post, right? And you might not now it but the actual difference between the two is that swastika has it's arms bent to right while manji has them bent to left... Ichigo's hilt has it's arms bent left so yeah... calling it swastika makes a lot of sense...
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when you look at ichigo it is a swastika but when he look at his sword its not



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the nazis actually copied it out of the hinduism...and no it does not represent them
also i heard kubo said something bout bleach reaching only half of its actual storyline so far
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Sorry to change drastically the topic, but here's a thing we all would have:
Just for One Piece MANGA READERS
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@sng15 so im assuming you're supporting my claim in saying the Ichigo had to get stronger than Aizen for it to be a satisfactory? ending?

My point still stands no one has broken aizen's Shikai control, Gin wasn't in Aizen's control when he held his sword, he was just making sure that there is no control cast on him, like you said a weakness to his ability. i actually wanted to see someone/Ichigo breaking out of the control, like how Aizen got used to Shinji's Shikai ability and was able to counter it.

there was also another weakness of not having to look at the sword when he activates his shikai to not be under his control.

Aizen had to be weak for Urahara's new Kido to work.

i havnt read any interviews but at the end of the SS arc Aizen makes it obvious what his goals are and they seem reasonable for a villain.
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@lucci:
I would've loved the Zoro figurine... Wonder why they didn't make it...
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will they make more?cause those look awesome!
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Zoro was most likely already sold, same for Sanji, as it would be weird if they made the whole crew aside from them.
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Swastika Break.....That's the title of this weeks Bleach chapter.
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Yes, it had already been stated.
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Eh, I guess I'm late to the party as usual~
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