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Mike
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its like espada 0>ichigo>zaraki>espada 0
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@Gr1mm I didn't mind the hollow transformation I just didn't get why people bash that and praise Gear 2nd so much
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its like espada 0>ichigo>zaraki>espada 0
Ichigo had just finished his fight with Ulquiora. Of course he wasn't able to fight Yami.
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Mike
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@spade,because ichigos hollow powers are something that nobody can stop when he goes into full hollow while the gears werent enough even the first arc they were used(luffy barely beated lucci)
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lol why would someone transform just for the sake of transforming? its obviously supposed to be better than their normal form
EDIT:thats what normally happens in DBZ


and luffy did WTFPWN Blueno since you so conviniently missed out that part, same with ichigo he beat Ulquiora but wasnt going to beat Yammi if he stayed

the only thing that bothers me about ichigo's transformation is what exactly was in control since it obvioulsy didnt have the personality of HIchigo
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Most likely whatever was controlling him when he transformed during the Vizard training.
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yea its telling us it was HIchigo but like i said before its not the same HIchigo as what we saw in Byakuya fight
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Mike
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he just didnt talk,the actions were the same,he just became more like an animal
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whatever you think, aizen and yamamoto are still the best of bleach, nobody else will ever reach their epicness
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
@lucci ichigo is stronger than both of them. i dont see how anyone can like naruto more than one piece but everyone has their own opinion i guess. they all have things that could make them better inluding dbz but to me naruto's fightscenes just suck, if you dont count the new ova and the movies, and maybe 4-5 fights in the actual series, the fights usually arent that good
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ichigo is still not stronger than yamamoto imo...yamamoto was only defeated cause of that annoying baby espada
i beliebe he s stronger than ichigo, aizen and the rest so yea
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the cool fights were the long ones, in naruto. there are probably a few lovely battles only
Naruto VS Neji, Lee VS Gaara, 3rd Hokage VS first two hokages + orochimaru, Lee VS Kimimaro, Naruto VS Sasuke, Gaara VS Deidara, Sasori VS Kankuro, Sasori VS Sakura, Deidara VS Sasuke, Itachi VS Sasuke, Pain VS Naruto, Killerbee VS Sasuke

extremely few, in comparison with the OP ones
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whats the new naruto ova? is it the one showing the future sasuke vs naruto?

you just names pretty much all of them but how can you leave out Gaara vs Kimimaro
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It's called Naruto X Uniqlo.
I have no idea how good (or bad) it is, as I haven't watched it.
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yeah thats the one, it's pretty good only about 6 mins long :)
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
@gr1mm yeah thats the one where naruto and sasuke fight
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the failures/loses that you mentioned were obviously (or not so obvious to you) written that way by oda for reasons. he already planned the war long ago (hence the statement after ace vs bb fight) and that only Luffy among the SH will join the war. of course, luffy's mission to save ace in impel down and marineford was also planned because ace was intended to die. he doesnt need to beat magellan even if he can. his mission was to save a char. thats the situation. and then what happened after the war (spoilers).
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Thanks for spoiling the end of the Aizen fight.
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sorry. i didnt know the spoilers rule also applies to non-OP and i dont watch bleach anime so i dont know where the anime is now.
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Codes stolen/copied from others -> "GREAT" coder
+ Ideas copied from other games -> "CREATIVE" ideas
+ lots of hi-res effects -> supposedly "graphics > gameplay"
= "EPIC" mugen char

- said by "EXPERT" people
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Shademan
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The spoilers rule apllies to everything. It's spoilers.
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majin bman
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
acutally ichigo fighting aizen would have have been a good ending, not going to go into details on why cause i dont fel like making a spoiler tag. i dont think any of ichigos transformations are all that overpowering, if you say that hollow form is overpowered then what about gear second. Luffy got his behind handed to him and was much weaker than blueno until he used gear second. lucci was MUCH more powerful than luffy before luffy had the gears and even when lucci transformed he still could not keep up with luffys gears until luffy started to run out of energy. naruto's kyuubi form could also be considered overpowered then because he also got a hole rammed through his chest with his fight against sasuke but it healed up in just a few seconds thanks to kyuubi chakra, also if you take the time to consider all of the people he could not beat without it i would say that it is way more hax than ichigos powerup. hell even gokus super saiyan could be considered overpowered when it was first introduced because frieza hadnt even used over 20 percent of is power when fighting goku and was beatingthe shit out ofhim till goku go super saiyan and then even friezas full 100 percent power wasnt enough. when you look a it like this you really see that ichigos transformations really that overpowered or hax as a lot of you think it is

on a side note twitter is awesome for many reasons lol
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I have a thing to say about spoilers.

For any story based thing, spoilers are the worst thing. Wether it's a movie, manga series or a video game, spoiling it usually ruins the whole idea of watching/reading/playing the spoiled. For example, Mass Effect: I'm sure the ending won't have such a big effect on me as I already know what will happen. However, it is different with video games and other media. Mostöy because of the journey. The game is still fun to play. Manga on the other hand looses all of it's intrest if you know what will happen. Same goes with movies.
So what I want to say is use the goddamn spoiler tags. If you are unsure what you are going to post is a spoiler, use the tags. If you ARE sure, what you are going to post is spoilers, then use the tags. Some people don't care about spoilers and I'm sure they can identify themselves but most people want to preserve the suspense.

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sgn15
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so just to be clear, i should absolutely hide all spoiler stuff (both manga and anime?) even from series like beelzebub and FT and other series that i presuppose no one here reads/watches?

and offtopic:
i wonder what's worse, a dead site like kevinsmugen or a fucked-up site like DM? cant facepalm enough for both xD
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Codes stolen/copied from others -> "GREAT" coder
+ Ideas copied from other games -> "CREATIVE" ideas
+ lots of hi-res effects -> supposedly "graphics > gameplay"
= "EPIC" mugen char

- said by "EXPERT" people
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