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You know what the best things I've ever read were, Akira and Jojo Bizarre Adventure those are amazing ~<3.
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Shademan
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I started reading Jojo awhile back. I gotta get back to that someday.

@Tyler

The anime has been moving along pretty well so far actually. I'm scared that they'll stop the Aizen fight though, and start with like 2/3 months of filler so the manga can move along.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
@shade they just might because the manga is not very far ahead and usually when it gets this close they decide to put those stupid fillers
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HSD Kenichi! The one and only!!

On a unrelated side note: I dislocated my shoulder.
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We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die

oops I got wrong... OP sold 200 mill in total volumes not vol 61 alone (it sold 2 mill)...
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Feb 11 2011, 12:38 PM
ALOT of people would dissagree about namek saga being the last interesting arc, and characters like krillin and yamcha were proven to be weak from the begining of dbz and even dragonball so them not getting many fights is kind of expected. you wouldnt expect nami to go up against blackbeard and live would you
no i don't expect Nami to fight Blackbeard but i expect her to be of somewhat importance to an arc and the manga altogether the earth warriors lost their importance to the story when the only thing they could do in the buu arc was find dragonballs tien was my favorite character and i hated how all he could do was distract the enemy until the real hero got there
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That's what happens OP as well. The most they do to the main villain of an arc is just stall (with very rare exceptions), while Luffy does the actual fighting.
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This is the most amazing story i have ever read it's from a place called cracked.com it's a story about Alexis Goggins and how she stared death down she had the nickname of invincible girl here is why
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Who was she?
Just an ordinary first grader, attending classes, hanging with her friends.

How She Stared Down Death:
She had to save her mom from some crazy dude. She did this by jumping in front of him and taking six bullets, point blank, including a couple to the head.

It started when some lowlife kidnapped Alexis and her mom (OK, the lowlife was the mom's boyfriend). The mother tried to stall the bad guy and managed to call 911, but the cops said they couldn't send anyone. Apparently they were all busy with more fucked up situations than a man holding a child hostage at gunpoint.

It was at this point that the gunman decided he should stamp his passport into hell and started shooting. Two bullets struck the mother before little Alexis dove between them, begging the shooter to stop. Without hesitation, he shot six times, little Alexis taking the bullets that would have killed her mother. By this time the cops arrived, as they figured things were getting really serious because now someone was actually shooting.Alexis thought about dying for a second then decided she still had some shit to do. Death could only watch as she grabbed her stuff and headed back to the land of the living, despite some serious injuries that would have killed most of us twice and some of us three times.

This would be jaw-droppingly impressive for a 250-pound Marine combat vet, let alone a seven-year-old girl. And while we would like to cling to our original theory that she's actually an immortal Highlander, the truth is this seven-year-old girl is simply more man than we'll ever be.
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what i was saying is that villains like croc and lucci already defeated luffy. they are stronger than luffy. but for the sake of the story,
ussop came out and gave luffy an "inspirational speech" to stand up again (lucci fight)
luffy sort of prolonged the effects of croc's poison and croc didnt turn him into mummy again (he can do this even when he was wet and hittable)

so why luffy defeated these enemies? its for the sake of the goddamn story. what if oda made luffy lose any of those main arc enemy battles??? common sense would be the answer.

and about bleach, i have to agree that the first arc suprise (aizen was the main villain) was really the biggest plot twist i have read among the 3 (N/B/OP). however, after aizen was discovered, everything became just trolling. also, in most shonen mangas, the protagonist is supposed to do or be something great in the future, sort of a chosen one (naruto = hokage, until got obssessed with sasuke, luffy=PK), but i dont see that in bleach. ichigo became a death god then fight and fight and fight and protagonists and villains evolve like pokemon, provided there are save [insert character] arcs, theres no general point to bleach IMO.
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Goku is a prime example why what you just said about shounen manga is wrong. He didn't fight any of the villains because he wanted to be the strongest or anything of the like.
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well, goku was one of those SSJs that freeza was scared about. so he was one of those "chosen", until everybody else became SSJ as well, which contradicted the original concept. and yeah youre half right. i hate that it has to be "this planet will explode/be extinct because of this villain" for every dbz arc. thats the reason goku and company are fighting the villains.
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Why the hell should all shounen manga follow the norm? It'd be boring.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
@shade exactly, he just fought to protect the earth and the ones he loved just like ichigo. ant to anyone who thinks characters like nami and ussop serve more importance in op than tein and yamcha and krillin did in db are crazy. nami, robin, ussop all fight people that luffy doesnt have time to waste with. hey dont fight major villians, if they did then there would be no reason for it to be called a major villian, all shows at one time or another have to give the less important characters less fights than the main characters you might blame db for doing it but op did it from very early on in the series in my opinion
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@shade exactly, he just fought to protect the earth and the ones he loved just like ichigo. ant to anyone who thinks characters like nami and ussop serve more importance in op than tein and yamcha and krillin did in db are crazy. nami, robin, ussop all fight people that luffy doesnt have time to waste with. hey dont fight major villians, if they did then there would be no reason for it to be called a major villian, all shows at one time or another have to give the less important characters less fights than the main characters you might blame db for doing it but op did it from very early on in the series in my opinion
okay i understand this but dragon ball z never gave any weaker villains for anyone to fight don't get me wrong i like dragon ball z and all but that's just the one thing i can't stand also i get that the earthlings got weaker as the saiyans evolved but they also lost all importance to the story
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What he said was pretty true. As much as I like Tien, Yamcha, and Krillin, they never really fought except to stall the bad guy to wait until either Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, or Gohan arrived to do some damage. Even then they ended up stalling to wait for Goku.


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its always varied due to the general theme of every series like pirates, ninjas, death gods, magic, mafia, demons, etc
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pirates = one piece
ninjas = naruto
death gods = death note/bleach
magic = ??????
mafia = ??????
Demons = ??????
please fill in the blanks XD
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sgn15
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magic = fairy tail
mafia = reborn
Demons = beelzebub (although the main protagonist is human, the story is about demons really)
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garp
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yea that was an easy one '-' still bleach is better than naruto...i even stopped reading and watching naruto cause i m annoyed of this lame story and sasuke s emo style...naruto was about to evolve into one as well...
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So... People are pissed because stories resemble each other? Because the hero always winning?... Just.... Read HnK....
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OP is not like the hero always win,look how much luffy lost
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like in DBZ, right...
i mean, it goes like this (sorta): a new villain appears, the Z warriors get their ass kickd, they train, get back stronger, they win...
or in some accasions: a new villain appears, the Z warriors get their ass kickd, they get back up stronger, thay win... BUT, that makes sense cuz the saiyans get stronger each time thay face a near death experiance, which is not a fact in other animes...
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garp
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the funny part bout dbz is...they train like ages...without much effect...it s not that they get that much stronger...and then a new villain appears and they train like 1 day or so and BOOOM they are kicking his ass...still the story is one of my fav manga plots
anyone reads vagabond? bout myamoto mushashi and saski kojiro? the first third of the story is about musashi getting owned over and over again which is kinda funny but even later he s losing sometimes though everyone s talkin bout him as the strongest
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and in OP they dont win
example:shabaody,they lost,total pwneg,they ascaped just because one of the oponents wanted them to escape
ID:luffy never beated magellan,he almost died
marineford:got kicked around like a ball and in the end his bro died in front of him and kinda because of him
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Feb 11 2011, 03:59 PM
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Feb 11 2011, 10:34 AM
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Other than Aizen, I've never had any complaints about Bleach. I find myself anticipating it way more than OP
I just can't understand why anyone would still like Bleach. Though I'm going to guess it's because you solely watch the anime and I only read the manga these days.
this is one of the main points people like some mangas than others. i started watching naruto when it was releasing shippuuden episodes so i didnt mind watching the two years fillers as i finished then in like a month or so

@spade i didnt really mind the hollow ichigo transformation so i have nothing against luffys gear second tranformation aswell

@Shade the inconsistancies with bleach is Aizen, the bankai's/shikai's some are so much stronger than others, ichigo's speed Byakuya<ichigo<grimmjow<zommari<Byakuya

with naruto the powerlevels are kind of hard to determine to see whos stronger than who, sometimes they win mainly due to matchups

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