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Mike
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one piece is true art imo,it deserves to be the best :)
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uuuuuh i was curious were the further outcome of the discussion would take place so here we are...guess tyler can show you my latest reply ...
i ll analyse the codes of his luffy and byakuya or maybe both if i ll have enough time and then making a thread for everyone to see where corrections are needed
also@ lucci "^^"
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Mike
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oh come on,enough of this guys
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Feb 11 2011, 06:02 AM
one piece is true art imo,it deserves to be the best :)
One Piece is so overrated I mean come on I guess its a good read, but Oda's not the god of manga that everyone makes him out to be.
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MDL is always overdoing being a fanboy. he cant even think of simple things why this and that happened. he always sees things from the perspective of a fanboy. i explained more than i can count with one hand things like why a villain is supposed to be defeated for the sake of the story (doesnt necessarily mean luffy is one bit stronger than the enemy at that time he defeated him). technically and generally speaking, this should apply to most mangas. but kubo obviously didnt apply it to his.
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Codes stolen/copied from others -> "GREAT" coder
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+ lots of hi-res effects -> supposedly "graphics > gameplay"
= "EPIC" mugen char

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Mike
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well,OP already sold more than DB so people obviously think like me

and yes im a fanboy \o/
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all of his fights make sense in the terms of him beating his enemies, there is hardly anything to speculate unlike naruto and bleach

oda makes his fight seem real as its not just because of plot that luffy beats his enemies whereas bleach and naruto there are so many inconsitancies specially bleach

but at the end of the day i still want to find out whats going to happen
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No, they don't. It just means more people are buying it. Maybe the fact that OP has gone on for longer than DB has something to do with it...

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Other than Aizen, I've never had any complaints about Bleach. I find myself anticipating it way more than OP
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Yeah because a rubber man moving at high speeds makes sense in the grand scheme. I remember being on a message board like the day after Luffy did gear second and everyone was like this is a huge asspull, this was the hollow transformation for One Piece for a large portion of people.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
i hate when people compare naruto, bleach and op to dbz. they all took dbz's style in some sense. you cant say a show is better than another when it clearly copied some aspects frm another show. if there where no dbz there might not even be an op. its like saying theangels are better than god when god is the one who made them in the first place. pluss dbz has been finished a long time ago, comparing a show that has been finished in the early 2000 to shows that wont be done till maybe a year or two from now is rediculous. that just shows how good of a show it must have been if it is still releven today even though it has been finished for so long. saying op is better than dbz is very far stretched in my opinion. sales really dont prove that something is better than something else. if spongebob where to make a manga and outsell op what would people say then, would they think spongebob is the best......HELL NO
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i dont really care that much even if it is a HUGE ASSPULL, as long as it looks so damn AWESOME... thats why i like Bleach alot, unlike some people dont that much cuz the story sucks (or something like that), and most characters do a lot of huge asspulls (like Aizen, who i my opinion is SUPER AWESOME, and i love him), but whatever, all of tham look FUCKINGHHH AWEOME!!!! ...i was like -> *reads bleach manga* than -> "OH MY GOOOOOD!!! cant wait to see that in the anime..." ...and thats why i like Bleach... and OP too...
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Aizen was awesome during the Soul Society arc, then started to blow when he decided to cast auto-revive on himself.
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
bleach isnt as bed as some people say it is. especially if you only watch the anime. all of the fight scenes surpass naruto and op inmy opinion
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We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die

@Rose:
Oda is is considered a god by so many decause he really knows how to draw manga... His story is always interesting... he manages to incorporate a lot of characters and story ellements in it and it never gets boring, all the pieces fit into a large picture without making you crazy trying to figure it out (for example Chrono Cross was so confusing with all that fate and parallel diminsions stuff that it took me quite some time to understand the backstory fully)... Bleach has around the same amount of major chars as OP but they degraded into panel decorations over time while all of Luffy's crew has an ever evolving personality... Oda manages his panels so that a chapther can has enough action and enough info to keep you satisfied for a week while when Kubo starts to draw action he wastes entire pages with some crappy pseudo "artistic" stuff like a huge black nothingness and needless spreads...

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Dragon Ball lost to Op even before it ended... The last truly interesting arc was Namek battle... after it there was almost no adventure whatsoever... villians came to heroes by themselfs, they where so powerfull that supporting cast was deemed useless (hell... Kuririn was one of my favorite chars... all he did later on was get killed or turned to stone) and they didn't had any lackeys to keep supporting cast busy either... You can see that Toriyama was getting bored with DB himself close to the end... Oda howere keeps this series up all this time without letting quallity slip and that a real feat to acomplish...

Only watching anime? You got to be a masochist to sit through months worth of crappy fillers... This applys to Naruto too... I quit thwatching them both around the time with dolls filler in bleach and pre timeskip filler in Naruto cause I couldn't handle it any more...
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Feb 11 2011, 12:25 PM
The last truly interesting arc was Namek battle...
Opinions are different from facts.

Also, no one forces you to watch the fillers. Saying anime is bad because of filler is one of the dumbest things one can say.
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We ain't going nowhere 'cause heroes never die

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If you only watch anime you don't even know what "filler" means... you just watch the whole thing as it is presented to you...
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
ALOT of people would dissagree about namek saga being the last interesting arc, and characters like krillin and yamcha were proven to be weak from the begining of dbz and even dragonball so them not getting many fights is kind of expected. you wouldnt expect nami to go up against blackbeard and live would you
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Seriously? Because I can tell right away when something is filler in Bleach. Because it has nothing to do with the storyline. Unless you're completly blind, you'd be able to tell too.
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i ll always love dragon ball it s the anime/manga i grew up with...only disliked gt...
and bout bleach...it s still far better than naruto imo...but i m a naruto hater...a dissappointed fan if u may say so...
one piece is actually the manga i m addicted mostly to but dragon ball will always be the manga/anime i ll remember best since it s a childhood memory -also dragon ball invented awesome fights... xD
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
@ garp amen about db invented awesome fights
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Huzzah!!! Whst is this? Tyler is active? People are arguing with someone? DBZ is the topic? This came totally out of nowhere!
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"Then something happened inside of me. I didn’t care anymore. I didn’t care about being better than Kakarott. I didn’t care about being a Super Saiyan. I didn’t even care if I lived or not. I didn’t care about anything…and that’s when it happened.&qu
lol how is the army kerle?
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http://s8.zetaboards.com/One_Piece_MUGEN/topic/8268991/1/#new
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why the question mark at the end of your statement...
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Feb 11 2011, 10:34 AM
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Other than Aizen, I've never had any complaints about Bleach. I find myself anticipating it way more than OP
I just can't understand why anyone would still like Bleach. Though I'm going to guess it's because you solely watch the anime and I only read the manga these days. In the manga the story was slowed down to such a crawl that I'd be willing to bet snails would have gotten bored with it. Considering the anime's way of making the story speed up you probably didn't get quite the affect that we manga readers did.

It was mostly the fact that it took MONTHS for the story to progress even a smudge in Bleach that made me utterly sick of it. I could stand the bullshit power ups and the all over the place power levels. I would go back to watching the anime but the fillers, which aren't half bad considering some of Naruto's and others, go on forever and ever. I tried getting back into it when the last ( that I'm aware of ) fillers ended and we got right into the Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight but I just couldn't find the motivation each week to download the episode.
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