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WW4:Indiana Jones & The Lost Scrolls of Alexandria
Topic Started: Feb 7 2015, 09:06 PM (2,380 Views)
Markanite
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Sorry for not posting in the last phase, I'm back!

Wow Klopstock, that's a lot of compelling evidence. I'd like to hear Aerso's defence but tentatively I'm voting:

Vote: lynch Aerso
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Stormaen
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Is Klop's "evidence" compelling or a well laid bread crumb trail..? :P

I'm going to go with my gut and:

Vote: lynch Aerso
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disposablepuppetland
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Aerso is definitely not a guardian. Lynch Klopstock
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That's a fact. Another fact is that there's a 50% chance that I was the target last night.

Vote: Lynch Klopstock
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Auq
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Klop, on your first point.

Aerso has done stuff like this in previous Canada WW games, after being targeted for being the only person in support of no lynches on day 1 he offered himself up so as a to ensure a power role wasn't being hit, its not a change in tactics that could indicate a wolf so much as a throwback to a tactic that helped get the village ahead.
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disposablepuppetland,Feb 16 2015
01:42 AM
Aerso is definitely not a guardian. Lynch Klopstock

Given that your vote is very much a non sequitur to your first statement, I have two questions for you.

1. How do you know Aerso isn't a Guardian?
2. If he isn't a Guardian, what is he?

As it stands, none of the arguments defending Aerso are really all that convincing, IMO. And in the absence of reasoned arguments proving Klop to be a Guardian, I have no incentive to change my vote at this point. I'm open to further reasoning on that subject, however.
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disposablepuppetland
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I have no evidence that Klop is a guardian, other than he is desperate to lynch Aerso, who is not a guardian.

I am just an archeologist, but I have been contacted by Indy, and he (or she) had already scanned Aerso.
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Matilda Love
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Have to make a decision as it is sleep time for me now.

What are the odds of dpl being a bad guy yet again?
As a power role or an archeologist, why would he lie about what he does know?

Based on this, I am going to have to change my tune.
Sorry dear fellow to have to do this to you, especially if I have you all wrong,

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Well, given DPL's "testimony", I think I'm going to have to change my vote.

Change vote: lynch Klopstock. :unsure:
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the land
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I find it interesting that dpl is doing the defending on aerso's behalf and all that aerso has said was that he was a likely target last night. Why does it have to be dpl that comes up with the reasons for protecting aerso? Why can't aerso come up with a way to convince us himself? I'm also not sure where his assertion that he had a high chance of being targeted came from. There has been no evidence that I can see that would lead him to believe that. He may of been one of the candidates for last day phase lynching, but that doesn't automatically make him a target for the guardians in my mind. There are ways to be convincing without giving to much away. I am eager to hear how aerso will respond to my questions.

Until then however, I will remain suspicious of everyone and wait to hear from the horses' mouth and

Vote: Lynch Aerso
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Aersoldorf
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What more needed to be added after DPL announced that we'd both been scanned? By voting for me after that revelation you make yourself look like a guardian trying to save his fellow. It doesn't make any sense for DPL to jeopardize himself trying to save me if we're both guardians. The safer course would have been to sacrifice me and buy himself some goodwill.
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the land
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Who knows what goes on during the game, stranger things have been known to happen. nothing is as it seems. You still didn't address the fact of why you believed you were targeted last night. I don't see how announcing you were both scanned jeopardizes dpl, either we believe him or we don't. Just like anything else. I don't think it's all that much higher risk than anything else that has been said. I find it interesting that you are unwilling to say anything else on the matter. That says more about what your possible role could be then whatever dpl might be.
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Stormaen
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After some consideration and reviewing, I think Aerso's safe. (I think.)
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Aersoldorf
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I believe that I may have been targeted last night because I think I'm on the right track with LC. I did say 50%. I'd be willing to bet that I was the target and that one of the Security Officers figured that I was a prime candidate for an attack with all of the flak I was taking during the night phase. So I think that it's highly likely that one of them defended me because they expected me to be attacked.

As far as how an announcement like that jeopardizes someone - it puts more pressure on the defenders. Now they're forced to protect 2 people who they know are members of the seer's army, or take the risk that they should defend themselves. If the guardians can't figure out who the seer is then they can minimize the impact of that role by eliminating those who have been scanned. That's why DPL's announcement put himself into jeopardy. I was already there :P
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Hahiha
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Ahh this is good. As to our current conundrum, I think it'd be beneficial to go along with Aerso's reasoning. Vote: Lynch Lower Colombia

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the land
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I accept your reasoning, but there isn't any evidence that klop is the guardian. I don't think he has been overly enthusiastic in any manner, just making observations and drawing conclusions as he sees fit, just as all of us do. We all draw different conclusions from the evidence presented. With only auq left to vote and only 2 hours ish left, my vote probably isn't going to mean much in the grand scheme of things.
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I'll buy the argument against Klop, the same is true today that was true yesterday. My vote against him is more in the interest of self preservation. I'd much rather vote for LC but the numbers aren't there at the moment. Before I even got a chance to speak during this day phase I already had 3 votes against me. I simply went with Klop because someone else cast a vote against him and so I followed suit.
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Markanite
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Just caught up on the recent events, they have me convinced. I'm going to give the lynch Klopstock idea a go first then if we're wrong we can always look back at the dpl/Aerso alliance.

Change vote: from lynch Aerso to lynch Klopstock
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You need to read everything I'm saying. I'd rather lynch LC, I only voted for Klop because there aren't enough votes for LC to save me if I did switch my vote.
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Auq
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I guess i should throw in my lot before the bell tolls so,
Lynch Klop
The arguments for LC seem stronger but voting to lynch LC would accomplish nothing at this point.
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