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Kids these days have no music
Topic Started: Oct 7 2009, 10:12 AM (207 Views)
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I posted this topic on the NS general forum yesterday, and it seemed to generate some discussion, so I thought I'd post it here too. Apologies if you've seen it already.


When I was growing up in the 80s and 90s it seemed like there were new musical styles being invented every year.

In the 80s there was: Techno/House, Thrash, Industrial, Rap, Ambient, Stadium Rock, West-Coast Hip-Hop
Then in the 90s there was: Drum & Bass/Jungle, Trip-Hop, Electronica; and if you're willing to stretch the definition of "new" a bit: Grunge, Nu Metal, Trance, Garage, Emo, Britpop, Indie.

Has there been a genuinely new genre in the 2000s though? There's plenty of sub-genres and new bands making new variations on old themes, but a new genre?

Dubstep perhaps? - But it's basically 'what Garage should have been', and most of those involved are people of my generation evolving what they started in the 90s. Gypsy-punk? - New in the UK yeah, but it's been around in Eastern Europe since the early 90s at least.

Maybe I'm just getting too old now to hear about new music... I doubt it though. The internet makes it pretty easy to find things.

Has there been a new genre created in the 2000s?
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Ambient electro-trance.
Dance-synth pop.
And other mash-up genres.

The student media at uni love this sh!t. <_<
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I find that the biggest style right now is a mix of Electronica and Hip-Hop... I'm in highschool and it is EXTREMELY popular!
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Pez201,Oct 7 2009
06:01 PM
Ambient electro-trance.
Dance-synth pop.
And other mash-up genres.

The student media at uni love this sh!t. <_<

Its because of you and commonwealthers/Europeans that i call universities Uni. Than folks looked at me weird. Anyways people listen to crap and will always listen to crap. Sorta like everything else
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Fin,Oct 8 2009
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Pez201,Oct 7 2009
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Ambient electro-trance.
Dance-synth pop.
And other mash-up genres.

The student media at uni love this sh!t. <_<

Its because of you and commonwealthers/Europeans that i call universities Uni. Than folks looked at me weird. Anyways people listen to crap and will always listen to crap. Sorta like everything else

Well we have colleges in Australia but it's just a fancy word for high school. :P
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Pez201,Oct 8 2009
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Fin,Oct 8 2009
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Pez201,Oct 7 2009
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Ambient electro-trance.
Dance-synth pop.
And other mash-up genres.

The student media at uni love this sh!t. <_<

Its because of you and commonwealthers/Europeans that i call universities Uni. Than folks looked at me weird. Anyways people listen to crap and will always listen to crap. Sorta like everything else

Well we have colleges in Australia but it's just a fancy word for high school. :P

Why do Americans call uni "college"? Where I'm from (talking about Western Australia here, not Suid-Afrika) a "college" is higher education for anybody after high school level and below university. :unsure:
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Because we're just loony, thats why
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There's plenty of sub-genres and new bands making new variations on old themes, but a new genre?


Realistically, how many of the "new" genres throughout history are "we'll take this existing genre and tweak it a bit"? I mean the original rock & roll was basically "blues with a twist of lime", heavy metal borrows a lot of its sound from classical music and rock music has evolved so much that the average rock band of today is vastly different than one from 50 or even 20 years ago.
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Niongor,Oct 8 2009
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Pez201,Oct 8 2009
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Pez201,Oct 7 2009
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Ambient electro-trance.
Dance-synth pop.
And other mash-up genres.

The student media at uni love this sh!t. <_<

Its because of you and commonwealthers/Europeans that i call universities Uni. Than folks looked at me weird. Anyways people listen to crap and will always listen to crap. Sorta like everything else

Well we have colleges in Australia but it's just a fancy word for high school. :P

Why do Americans call uni "college"? Where I'm from (talking about Western Australia here, not Suid-Afrika) a "college" is higher education for anybody after high school level and below university. :unsure:

In America, "college" pretty much means anything after high school. All universities are colleges, but not all colleges are universities.
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I despise almost all mainstream material, especially mainstream metal bands and this new genre of bands labelled "Metalcore". Garbage. Absolute trash. Though I admit, I do find a gem now and then in today's music, metal or non-metal.

I enjoy whats called Post-Metal. It's unlike the numerous genres of metal and breaks the stereotype and connotations people tend to have when hearing the words "Heavy Metal". to me, this music is beautiful.
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It's true there's a lot of crap out there nowadays...of course, that's also true of, say, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago...

It's also true there is some incredible stuff out there nowadays...etc...

Is it wrong to be somewhat derivative? Not if you are also original.

Does genre matter? Not really...ok, maybe it's kinda useful in decribing an artist to someone who has never heard that artist...but it shouldn't be a pideon hole for the artist...good music accepts no boundaries.
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kikkaz,Jan 18 2010
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It's true there's a lot of crap out there nowadays...of course, that's also true of, say, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago...

I hadn't thought about that, but it's a very good point.

For every memorable album from the 60s, 70s and 80s there's probably about twenty shitty ones... but in the passage of time the shitty ones get forgotten and the good ones remain.
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Pez201,Jan 18 2010
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kikkaz,Jan 18 2010
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It's true there's a lot of crap out there nowadays...of course, that's also true of, say, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago...

I hadn't thought about that, but it's a very good point.

For every memorable album from the 60s, 70s and 80s there's probably about twenty shitty ones... but in the passage of time the shitty ones get forgotten and the good ones remain.

Yupe...time is a filter, although, sometimes, it also filters out some good stuff, and allows, well, not such good stuff to pass. It also distorts...lol...I don't recall that Flock of Seagulls had the power to define a decade back then...
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