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10 most inaccurate movies
Topic Started: Mar 21 2008, 04:50 PM (308 Views)
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2001 was a entirely fictitious movie which looked into the future (of which we have no information) rather than into the past, where we have at least some historical information :P Can't call a film inaccurate in retrospect when the events have not happened, can we?


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I wasn't very surprised to see 10,000 BC on the list. In fact, that movie probably drove them over the edge and spurred them to create it! Honestly the whole pyramids in Egypt thing was so absurd. Egyptian civilization as we know it, didn't really take root until about 4,000 BC.

It was also no surprise to see 300 there. The movie was so over dramatized that I think it took away from demonstrating the historical significance of the Battle of Thermopylae.
However, it really doesn't matter when it comes to American audiences. Most people who see these spectacular box office hits usually leave the theater with an idea that what they just saw was the real thing. In the case of the 300, a lot of people actually didn't know that the story was about the Greeks, they thought it was the Romans!
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I think you should add the movie The Day After Tommorow to the list as well.

It was horrendously inaccurate. No way would a wave mysteriously come up and knock out New York City.

Absolutely inaccurate.
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Global warming kicked into high gear apparently, and maybe a massive hurricane or two. It's been a while since I saw it.
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dont get me wrong, I loved that movie.


Another one I liked, but all my friends told me was inaccurate was the movie Poseidon. Which is about a rogue wave flipping a ship

Rogue waves are known to happen though........


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I think you should add the movie The Day After Tommorow to the list as well.

It was horrendously inaccurate. No way would a wave mysteriously come up and knock out New York City.

Absolutely inaccurate.

The Day After Tomorrow has a few minor inaccurate parts but most of them are not major.

  • While the initial idea that an increase in freshwater could slow or shutdown thermoelastic circulation in the northern Atlantic ocean is scientifically valid and has a certain amount of probability to develop, it is impossible for the change to occur as rapidly as shown in the movie. They would need to pump about the amount of fresh water in the Greenland ice sheet for this to happen.

  • The plot-feasibility condition that descending tropospheric air would be cold, because it was descending too fast to warm up, is physically impossible. Bringing air downward means the air must be compressed from a very low pressure to a much higher pressure. By the ideal gas law, the temperature of the air must increase. Furthermore, the potential temperature of tropospheric air is higher, not lower, than the temperature of surface air. If brought to the surface, it would have a higher temperature than the surface air.[2]

  • The freezing temperature for the kerosene fuel used in most commercial and military jet engines, such as the RAF helicopters, is between -40 to -52.6 °F ( -40 to -47 °C) and not at the −150 °F (−101.1 °C) Prof. Rapson informs Jack is the freezing temperature ("We had to look it up!" Rapson tells Jack). Yet jet engines are routinely flown at 30,000 ft (9,000 m), the upper part of the troposphere whence the supercooled air is supposed to be descending across the northern hemisphere.

  • The temperature required in the scene where helicopters froze solid in mid air would be far too low for snow to occur. Below about −40 °C (−40.0 °F) the moisture capacity of air is so low that snow is very unlikely. The temperature in this scene would need to be much colder than −40 °C.

  • In order for the sea ice to reach the level it does on the Statue of Liberty (approximately 215ft or 65.6m), 75% of Antarctica's ice would have to melt, which would take more than 2½ years - only if all the solar radiation received by the Earth were concentrated on Antarctica (which could not happen due to the axis of the Earth). Also, the height of the water is hugely different throughout the film, managing to rise up to 10 stories on buildings in some shots and in others only being not much more than five feet or 1.5m (street lamps and traffic lights were visible at times).

  • The idea that supercooled air could descend from the stratosphere is not plausible. This is a violation of the Ideal Gas Law. The density of air in the upper atmosphere is a tiny fraction of that near sea level.(For a more extreme example the average temperature of interstellar space,spanning billions of light-years, is a fraction of a degree above absolute zero but the earth doesn't freeze.)

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Wow.....


what do you know about the accuracy of the movie Poseidon?
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Orlendric,Mar 21 2008
10:07 PM
I think you should add the movie The Day After Tommorow to the list as well.

It was horrendously inaccurate. No way would a wave mysteriously come up and knock out New York City.

Absolutely inaccurate.

That could happen - a volcano in the Canary Islands has such a steep and high sea-cliff that if there was an eruption and landslide like there was when Mount St Helens erupted then a huge tsunami would travel to the whole East coast of America :yes:

Just it wouldn't be unnoticed.

Also, the tsunami that a earthquake in Prince William Sound in Alaska in 1964 created (which was coincidentally on Good Friday :P) hit Hawaii at a height of 14 metres above normal tide levels :yes:



As I said, it's speculation on something happening in the future and so not really bound in this discussion.
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Poseidon is not accurate. It is possible for a tsunami to cause great detestation on land when it crashes into it. However when it is in a ocean, the water only rises a few inches. Therefore Poseidon is inaccurate.
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That could happen - a volcano in the Canary Islands has such a steep and high sea-cliff that if there was an eruption and landslide like there was when Mount St Helens erupted then a huge tsunami would travel to the whole East coast of America :yes:


I had heard of that and went to look up the crack or fissure there is supposed to be on one side of that volcano and at this site, I read this:
FACT: There is no (zero) evidence that the collapse of a volcano flank has EVER created a long-distance Mega-tsunami (as suggested Ward/Day/McGuire in the Horizon program).
The three known instances of similar events, Krakatoa, Santorin and Lituya Bay, Alaska, created local damage but a tsunami did not reach any distant shores. Claims that the El Hierro collapse caused problems in the Bahamas are denied by scientists in the Bahamas.
Ward/Day/McGuire ignored proven scientific facts and start the Horizon program by stating that the Lituya Bay, Alaska incident caused a mega tsunami. It didn't, and they new it. Lander, and P. Lockridge stated clearly that the wave was confined to a small bay and dissipated in the open waters of the Gulf of Alaska
LIES: "The block dropped 4 meters in 1949"!
The suggestion that 'the block' of rock (25km long, 2-3km deep and 15-20km wide) suddenly sank by 4 metres in 1949 is an absurd lie. Just one look at the coastal villages of Puerto Naos, Tazacorte, El Remo, Bombilla and Playa Nueva is enough to disprove this ridiculous lie. These villages are all situated just above sea level and would have disappeared under the sea.
The block didn't sink, the villages didn't sink. SOME OF THE AREAS 30,000+ INHABITANTS WOULD HAVE NOTICED.
What the real scientists reported was a surface crack 2km long but they themselves stated that there was no evidence to indicate that it was anything more than a localised surface phenomenon created by the lava flows nearby.
If 'the block' dropped by 4 meters then there must be a surface crack along the 2 sides. These cracks DO NOT EXIST. The suggestion that the block fell is a deliberate falsehood. They found 'a crack in the paint' but Ward/Day/McGuire claim that 'the whole wall is about to fall down' !!!


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FACT: The parameters used in the mathematical model used to justify the scare stories are unrealistic, exaggerated and based on incorrect assumptions.
All the measurements used to define the size of the possible block that might fall into the sea have been grossly exaggerated.
The length, width, depth and speed are all fictional.
The physical evidence for the length of the block is 4km, yet in the model they used 15 to 25 km.
The depth is suggested as 2 to 3km below the surface. The report itself states that there is no evidence for any form of deep fracture. The figure used is fictitious and was obviously chosen because without a large figure the whole La Palma Tsunami theory is exposed as a fake.
Width is given as 15 to 20 km. Again there is no hard evidence to support this fiction.
The speed of the collapse used in the model is not possible under normal circumstances. An unusual form of natural lubrication would be needed to achieve the speeds used in the model. This natural lubrication is NOT present under La Palma. An immense force would be needed to trigger the movement of the so-called block and these explosive pressures could not be produced on La Palma.


The story, here:
Las Palma Tsunami

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I can't argue with that list at all. They could however have made it much much longer. Accuracy in Hollywood is a pretty rare occurrence.

Even in Master and Commander where they spent a fortune to portray things accurately, the man overboard scene got totally out of hand.
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And that is why they are not documentaries. :lol:

I do appreciate the lengths that people go to in making historical fiction accurately set, at least. Master and Commander's author did it for the books, and as JT pointed out, the movie still got a couple of things out of place. Overall, though, it was well done - for fiction.

Science fiction is arguable. I don't think 2001 should have been on the list at all. Predicting the future and representing the past are two different things. However, a movie like WaterWorld got the science all wrong anyway. Even if the polar ice caps completely melted, there would not be a world covered in water except for Denver and the Himalayas.

I try very hard to make the distinction for my kids: fiction, documentary and speculation based on science, but once you've seen it, it's hard to earase the impression. CG is a gift and a curse. :lol:

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No .... don't tell me any more :(

The next thing you'll be telling me is that Santa Claus (1994) is inaccurate

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1984 wasn't on the list :ph43r:

Elizabeth: The Golden Age was probably the worst movie I've seen in a little while... followed by Wild Hogs...

Apocalypto was so incredibly innaccurate I'm surprised Quetzacoatl hasn't just come down from the sky and cosumed Mel Gibson's soul

Mel Gibson seems to be a theme of the top 10 :P
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1984 wasn't on the list :ph43r:

Elizabeth: The Golden Age was probably the worst movie I've seen in a little while... followed by Wild Hogs...

Apocalypto was so incredibly innaccurate I'm surprised Quetzacoatl hasn't just come down from the sky and cosumed Mel Gibson's soul

Mel Gibson seems to be a theme of the top 10 :P

Er, 1984 is a novel isn't it? Wait a minute, yes, they did make it into a film but wasn't that in the '50's?

Anyway, I think 1984 is very accurate as the atmosphere that exists in the book could indeed become a reality. Although the whole mind chip thing may be going a bit overboard, the sort of things that take place and exist in 1984 could be reality in a few hundred years.
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Damn! How did I miss this??? I could have been enjoying ruining Omni's life for the past week!! :rockon:

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1984 wasn't on the list  :ph43r:

Elizabeth: The Golden Age was probably the worst movie I've seen in a little while... followed by Wild Hogs...

Apocalypto was so incredibly innaccurate I'm surprised Quetzacoatl hasn't just come down from the sky and cosumed Mel Gibson's soul

Mel Gibson seems to be a theme of the top 10 :P

Er, 1984 is a novel isn't it? Wait a minute, yes, they did make it into a film but wasn't that in the '50's?

Anyway, I think 1984 is very accurate as the atmosphere that exists in the book could indeed become a reality. Although the whole mind chip thing may be going a bit overboard, the sort of things that take place and exist in 1984 could be reality in a few hundred years.

Aye but there was a reason the book/movie was called 1984, and well 1984 didn't exactly appear like that did it ;)
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